On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 15:12 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:23:45 -0700 > Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 13:01 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > > > So, what do people think about removing (some) of the special > > > treatment for the "system" and "world" targets? > > > Mainly I'm interested in removing the "selective" parameter that's > > > currently enabled for them (so for example without that parameter > > > `emerge world` would default to remerging packages, unless --update > > > or --noreplace are specified). That change has already been > > > requested a few times in the past by users, but OTOH it could > > > probably upset people who don't use --update with world/system. > > > > What would such a disruptive change really gain us? > > The goal is to make package sets behave in a consistent way. > > > I personally feel our users need consistency from Gentoo. If they > > grew up doing 'emerge world' and have come to expect that behavior > > and all of the sudden we change behavior on them.. Yeah I can see > > how ppl would get upset. > > As do I, which is why I haven't simply changed it. > > > Perhaps a less intrusive way would be to introduce another > > flag to get the specified behavior you are after. > > Well, the primary goal is to make all sets behave in a consistent way. > And some sets have the explicit purpose to rebuild stuff, so making > sets "selective" by default also has issues. > The proposed change would also make sets behave in the same way as > packages which is IMO another benefit. > But as I said, I can see that it could upset people. > > One possible solution that I've thought about would be to remove the > hardcoded "selective" parameter and let the set configuration determine > if a set is selective or not (with missing = "false"), and then enable > it for world and system in our default config, e.g. > > [world] > class = portage.sets.files.WorldSet > selective = True > > and extend the --rebuild option with new arguments "always" and "never". > Don't really like the additional complexity though (and I haven't > checked how much work it would be).
To me this really sounds like it's -e world but just with the world file. Literally as if you were to do an emerge -p $(</var/lib/portage/world) Assuming that is what you intend for it to behave like then how about using -E for this behavior? Everybody would profit and nobody would become disgruntled when all of the sudden emerge started spiking the power bills. :) -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
