Well, this discussion turns out to become a most interesting one...

On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:03:33AM -0600, Kashani wrote:
>       I hate to say it, but it sounds like *less* maintenence and change 
> would fix most of your problems. I'm running most of the same services 
> you are yet I haven't had a problem because I either test on my private 
> server or don't do immediate upgrades. Usually I do both of those. 
> Waiting 1-2 weeks before touching production packages like mysql, 
> apache, etc would have avoided almost every one of your problems.
[...]
> Is that fairly conservative? Yes. Have I had customer noticable
> downtime in the past year? No.

I totally agree with your whole posting. The point is that we're talking
about servers on this list, and servers want to be managed totally
different from workstations. Your posting is a very good summary of how
and why to do that.

To Ben: I guess your server would run very well with either gentoo or
debian or FreeBSD, if you train yourself to hold up that conservative
approach that Kashani described so well. IMHO however, you shouldn't
switch a server to another OS unless you made yourself _quite_ familiar
with that OS and ran a testing system with it for at least a few
months. Without spending enough time watching the new OS, you will
simply not get the opportunity to encounter all the small gotchas that
every OS has and for that you have to get a feeling how to deal with.
Set up a second system and make your experiences there.

Regards
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Maik Musall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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