Sorry about the two messages, I had to do that email online and the page wasn't refreshing so when i refreshed the page it sent the mail twice, anyway....
I've solved part of the problem i was having. I noticed that there is this this file: ~/.gconfd/saved_state that gnome creates, except mine was over 500 MB. I assume that gnome checks this file and so when I run gnome programs it loads this into memory. I deleted the file and now everything works fine. Nautilus seems to be the problem. When I start it, a few dozen instances are loaded at once, causing enlightenment to beserk as it tries to sort them out. Nautilus also seems to be loading its desktop despite the --no-desktop parameter. I think it keeps loading nautilus over and over indefinatly. This seems to be creating the giant saved_state file. Anyway, if anyone else is having a problem with gnome programs in another wm it's probably because of an enormous .gconfd/saved_state file. -Arlo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list