On Thursday 06 March 2003 14:46, Christian Herzyk wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Am Donnerstag, 6. März 2003 20:48 schrieb Alan:
> > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 02:41:20PM -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote:
> > > I'm getting ready to take Gentoo_2 off line and replace mobo and
> > > processor I was looking at hdd's this morning and saw Western
> > > Digital 80 and 120 gig udma 133 drives at both the same pricethe
> > > difference is that the 80 gig has 8 megs of cache and the 120
> > > 2gigs.both claim a seek

 ooops 2 megs
> >
> >                                                   ^^^^^ Gigs???
> >
> > > time of 9.1ms. could some one voice an opinion here.(as if I have
> > > to look far on this list for an opinion :) ) Which would you buy?
> >
> > More cache is always better performance, but if it means you can
> > get the extra 40G....  Kinda hard to say.  I got myself some of the
> > WD 80G/8m drives a couple of months ago and have been quite happy. 
> > There was a bigger price difference between the 80 and 120 at that
> > point though :)
> >
> > Tough decision, I guess it really comes down to space or
> > performance. Granted, I can't give you quantitative evidence of the
> > performance of the 8m vs 2m cache.
>
> I have the WD 80G drive with 2MB Cache, so I will just post my
> values.
>
> > My hdparm results:
> >
> > phoenix alan # hdparm /dev/hdf
> >
> > /dev/hdf:
> >  multcount    = 16 (on)
> >  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
> >  unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
> >  using_dma    =  1 (on)
> >  keepsettings =  0 (off)
> >  readonly     =  0 (off)
> >  readahead    =  8 (on)
> >  geometry     = 155061/16/63, sectors = 156301488, start = 0
>
> /dev/hda:/dev/hda:
 multcount    =  8 (on)
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
 using_dma    =  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 readonly     =  0 (off)
 readahead    =  8 (on)
 geometry     = 1247/255/63, sectors = 20044080, start = 0
Ernie root # hdparm -Tt /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  0.86 seconds =148.84 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  3.13 seconds = 20.45 MB/sec
>  multcount    = 16 (on)
>  IO_support   =  1 (32-bit)
>  unmaskirq    =  1 (on)
>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
>  keepsettings =  0 (off)
>  readonly     =  0 (off)
>  readahead    =  8 (on)
>  geometry     = 9729/255/63, sectors = 156301488, start = 0
>
> > phoenix alan # hdparm -Tt /dev/hdf
> > /dev/hdf:
> >  Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  0.80 seconds =159.60
> > MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  2.07 seconds = 30.86
> > MB/sec
>
> /dev/hda:
>  Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  0.50 seconds =256.00 MB/sec
>  Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  2.04 seconds = 31.37 MB/sec
>
> Quite strange that my cache reads are much faster, probably it's teh
> controller.
>
> > phoenix alan # dmesg | grep hdf
> > hdf: WDC WD800JB-00CRA1, ATA DISK drive
> > hdf: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/8192KiB Cache,
> > CHS=155061/16/63, UDMA(100)
>
> Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda8 hdd=ide-scsi
>     ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd400-0xd407, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
> hda: WDC WD800BB-53BSA0, ATA DISK drive
> hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=9729/255/63,
> UDMA(100)
>
> So it seems that in this small "benchmark" the cache doesn't score
> too much perhaps there are some better things to run like bonnie or
> dbench.
>
> Greetings
>
> Christian

Seems that the larger cache doesn't make much difference.
This is my UDMA/66 WD 20 gig/2megs cache:

/dev/hda:
 multcount    =  8 (on)
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
 using_dma    =  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 readonly     =  0 (off)
 readahead    =  8 (on)
 geometry     = 1247/255/63, sectors = 20044080, start = 0
Ernie root # hdparm -Tt /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  0.86 seconds =148.84 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  3.13 seconds = 20.45 MB/sec

I guess I can expect to see a pretty healthy increase in speed with the 
UDMA/133. If there was a great advantege to the larger cache, I'd be 
inclined to go that way, after all, who needs 120 gigs? Of course 2 
years ago, I asked who needs 20 gigs?
-- 
Regards, Ernie
100% Microsoft and Intel free

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