On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 05:07  am, William Kenworthy wrote:

> Can anyone explain this:
> [ebuild    U-] sys-kernel/pfeifer-sources-2.4.20.1_pre1
> [2.4.20.2_pre4]
>
> My current kernel is lolo-sources so I presume its trying to convert
> "2.4.20.2_pre4" to "2.4.20.1_pre1" whick looks both a downgrade and
> highly dubious?  On examining the ebuild, it might be that lolo
> sources is now pfeifer, but where is this documented?  I originally
> went with lolo sources due its i810 support when gentoo-sources didnt,
> maybe its time to move back to gentoo-sources?  I think some detailed
>
> descriptions
> in the gentoo docs about what kernel version is what is long overdue.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] stroller $ emerge -s pfeifer
Searching...
[ Results for search key : pfeifer ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

*  sys-kernel/pfeifer-sources
       Latest version available: 2.4.20.1_pre1
       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
       Size of downloaded files: 29,239 kB
       Homepage:    http://www.gentoo.org/ http://www.kernel.org/
       Description: Full sources for the experimental Gentoo Kernel.
Patches from
  here may move into sys-kernel/gentoo-sources

[EMAIL PROTECTED] stroller $ emerge -s lolo
Searching...
[ Results for search key : lolo ]
[ Applications found : 0 ]

This FAQ http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=24634 dated November
last year says that "lolo-sources: [is] the testbed for
Gentoo-sources". I would be inclined to the view, as you suggest, that
someone by the name of Pfeifer has taken on the task of developing them
 in the last few months.

> Also emerge --help and man emerge still shed no light on what the
> various flags mean (e.g. what is the "-" in the "U-" ??)

Hnmmmn... `man emerge` tells me:

[ebuild U-] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0 [4.2.99.902]
               The  -  represents  lack  of SLOT information about
Xfree.  This
               will occur when the previous version emerged was
injected  (see
               inject for more info) or very outdated (so old that SLOT

did not
               exist).  Either way, a newer version of Xfree  is
availabe  for
               your updating delight.

So in this case, perhaps the - is indicating of the name change, or
that the 2.4.20.2_pre4 has become masked.

I guess what I'm telling you is that any of us can make about as
educated guess as you can. Furthermore, I find that this list
http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/devlist.xml shows:
  pfeifer       Jay Pfeifer     San Antonio     Core system/kernel

Perhaps you should drop Pfeifer a quick email. But I recommend that you
 don't whine about "detailed descriptions in the gentoo docs about
...kernel version[s] [being] long overdue". As with any free software,
if you don't like the documentation, the onus is on YOU to do some
research & write some. Perhaps you could volunteer some of your time to
 Pfeifer when you contact him.

The FAQ I gave a link to above appears to be a month or two out of
date, but perhaps this
http://forums.gentoo.org/
viewtopic.php?t=37557&highlight=gentoo+sources+faq thread has more
information for you.

I have this idea that the downgrade from "2.4.20.2_pre4" to
"2.4.20.1_pre1" may be related to the first result in this
http://forums.gentoo.org/search.php?mode=results search, so it might
also be worthwhile for you to read the thread on "Local Root Hole -
Current gentoo-sources vulnerable" first thing.

HTH,

Stroller.




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