On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 05:31, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > Why would we want idiot users. I personally believe gentoo should not want to > be an all-users distro. Please let the noobs run redhat, mandrake, caldera, > suse whatever. The installation manual is an excelent way to filter out those > users who are not quite ready for gentoo yet. This will make sure that the > traffic on gentoo-user is not quadrupled (and all devs and knowledgeable > people leave it). It will also make sure that the amount of invalid bugs > doesn't increase considerably. > Gentoo is a linux distribution for power users by power users. Everyone is > welcome to use gentoo, but as yet it could mean that users who are not > qualified get disappointed. That's bad luck for them, but I don't really care > that much. For gentoo we need people who are going to help to make the distro > even greater than it is now. People who really need a graphical install are > not going to be those people.
Sorry, but I disagree. I think that portage makes gentoo a much better newbie distrobution than redhat or mandrake. I also think that our irc channel is WAY better at helping newbies than #redhat (i dont even know if there is a #mandrake channel so I wont comment on that), and our web forum is imho the best out there, period. Yes, Gentoo is missing is a graphical installer. BUT I think thats a good thing, because I can remember how much I learned the first time I installed Gentoo (I even learned more than the first time I tried to install LFS) because our installer documentation was just so excelent. The command line installer :) is excelent for teaching tool for newbs.. which is how we get people to _STOP_ being newbs.. by teaching them.. not by excluding them from the oportunity to learn. Gentoo: newbies check in, they dont check out. -- alex ps. I dont think we should change a single thing as far as our bug system goes, we have bugs.gentoo.org for real bugs, and we have this mailing list and #gentoo for everything else. So far it has always managed to bail me out. pps. I think charging for support is a good idea. I would happily let someone pay me to help them install gentoo over the phone :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
