As is turns out, I do have a follow-up question.  Daniel, did you mean that
emerge -e really picks up ALL packages or just the ones that I have
currently installed?  I ask because when I tried your suggestion, 'emerge -e
world' failed on a package that I had never chosen to begin with and
couldn't trace back to a dependency on any I had chosen.  Of course, I too
new to this to be sure but clarification would help.  The man page is a
little cryptic in its explanation.  I would also like to ask the person who
responded with saying that they caught the emerge output to a file and
simply edited out the successes so they could restart the failures easily,
how they did the catching.  Simply redirecting the output seems to catch
thousands of lines of compile info etc that is simply too weighty to edit
out by hand.  Thanks,

Michael Balamuth
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From: Daniel Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerging new system vs complete reinstall


Michael Balamuth wrote:
> I'm trying to understand the underlying specifics of installing Gentoo
> versus changing it on the fly.  Since optimization and tailoring is the
goal
> of the philosophy behind the install of Gentoo, would the same thing be
> accomplished on a running system by setting new USE flags and doing:
>
> emerge system (not update) followed by emerge world (again not update)

Firstly, you need to use emerge -e to get all of the packages.
Secondly, "emerge -e system" will only recompile "system" packages, and
"emerge -e world" will recompile *all* packages (including system packages).
You will be recompiling system packages twice (waste of time..)

As far as I know, the desired behaviour can be achieved with "emerge -e
world"
alone. You should confirm this with someone else though, as I'm not 100%
certain.

> as though you were at stage 2 of a fresh install?? Doesn't this just
> recompile everything, or am I missing something critical?  I'm asking,
> because I'd like to experiment with several variants of optimization but
> would rather avoid all the other system setup things like timezones and
> users and fstab and the lot.  Advice appreciated.

Yes - this method will achieve the same results as a stage1 system. Infact,
this is a method that I have picked up recently - install using Stage3/GRP
so
that installation is quick, then recompile all packages after that - the
advantage here being that you have a usable system during the lengthy
compilation. I will be trying this next time I need to install gentoo
somewhere.

Daniel

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