On 06/22/2010 12:29 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Dienstag 22 Juni 2010, walt wrote: >> On 06/22/2010 11:44 AM, Dale wrote: >>> Tanstaafl wrote: >>>> On 2010-06-18 12:17 PM, Bill Longman wrote: >>>>> And finally, don't even mention how braindead the "new" improved >>>>> grub is. I wonder how anyone can feel that having to write six >>>>> paragraphs> in some one-off bash-like language, which needs to be >>>>> debugged, is better than four lines in a config file. >>>> >>>> This brings up a question I've been meaning to ask... >>>> >>>> Since I have no desire to experience this new 'improved' GRUB, but don't >>>> like LILO - how long will it be before I'll be forced to make a choice? >>>> Meaning, how long will legacy GRUB still be supported? >>> >>> If I read the home page correctly, they are not really doing much more >>> than bug fixes on the old grub. That was my reading at least. I'm >>> dreading that day too. I sort of like my old grub. I started on lilo and >>> grub has seriously grown on me. I'll switch to the new grub tho. I have >>> NO plans to go back to lilo. None whatsoever ! ! >> >> IIUC the change will be forced by mobo manufacturers when they adopt the >> newer partition tables and boot/BIOS methods . They have catchy acronyms >> that I can't remember, naturally, but we've all seen them discussed in this >> group from time to time. Don't buy new mobos and you can stick to old >> grub. > > mobos? why should mobos have any influence? > > And what have mobos to do with the fact that whenever GNU lay their dirty > hands on a project they will no rest until they turned something decent and > usefull into an overly complex, drowned in obscure options and hard to > configure mess?
Because of EFI firmware, that's why mobos would effect it. Like the Sun Openboot PROM docs say somewhere: "BIOS? We don't need no stinkin' BIOS". Same with the lame x86 status quo. At least nowadays we could have two different versions of it on board and it's not a hardware chip anymore, but, compared to most other intelligent platforms, PC BIOS is pretty braindead. Volker, I feel your pain every time I have to use two "--" instead of one "-" on my flags. Does -help take one or two? (I'm sure I can easily start a raging, apocalyptic forest fire by mentioning "man" and "info" in the same sentence :-)
