El 21/09/11 15:48, Alan McKinnon escribió:
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:34:36 +0700
> Pandu Poluan <pa...@poluan.info> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 19:26, Alan McKinnon
>> <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:15:02 +0700
>>> Pandu Poluan <pa...@poluan.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm, just ran eix-sync followed by emerge -pvuD @world...
>>>>
>>>> And I was unpleasantly surprised when I see
>>>> sys-kernel/hardened-sources going back from the currently installed
>>>> (and booting) 2.6.39-r13 to -r8
>>>>
>>>> Changelog does not described why -r13 is pulled.
>>> Actually it does :-)
>>>
>>>  13 Sep 2011; Anthony G. Basile <bluen...@gentoo.org>
>>>  -hardened-sources-2.6.32-r64.ebuild,
>>>  -hardened-sources-2.6.39-r12.ebuild,
>>>  -hardened-sources-2.6.39-r13.ebuild,
>>> -hardened-sources-3.0.3.ebuild: Removed deprecated versions
>>>
>>>
>> Yeah, it's "deprecated", but what does that mean, exactly?
> Nobody knows what deprecated means. Usually it's developer whim...
>
> Like "synergy", nobody on the planet know what that means either
>
>>> Maybe -r13 just never made it to stable at all?
>>>
>> It's never stable, yes. But somehow I'm more comfortable with -r13
>> than -r8 (5 revisions).
> I tend to agree. Higher -r numbers include more kernel bugfixes and
> Linus has a very long history of being correct about fixes with not many
> wrong calls. 
>
> I wish people wouldn't just remove stuff without full details. If
> there's an issue with that code, there should be a bug at b.g.o. and
> the Changelog should mention it.
>
> Then folks like yourself can read it and make informed decisions.
> As it stands, you have nothing but mystery. Argggg.
Well deprecated version removal tends to happen because we are not going
to aim for those versions stabilization AND there is a newer version
available AND upstream tends to ignore bugs happening on older versions.

What this means for you is that we are not going to force you to upgrade
but if something fails you are in your own ;)

PS: Next time come by #gentoo-hardened we won't bite you, I promise ;)

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