On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. <da...@happypenguincomputers.com> wrote: > > > > On March 17, 2012 at 8:48 PM Nikos Chantziaras <rea...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 17/03/12 13:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> > Hello, Nikos. >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 08:25:48AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> > >> >>> Happy Computer Users, systemd is on your horizon. >> > >> >> No, we don't. I hope systemd arrives soon. It's the best init system > I >> >> ever saw. >> > >> > What's so good about it? What will it do for me? >> > >> > I have this horrible sneaking suspicion that it will be more > complicated >> > than /sbin/init + OpenRC, just like udev + initramfs is more > complicated >> > than udev, and CUPS is more complicated than classical lpr. >> > >> > Why do you find it so good? >> >> No idea. I only posted this because the OP didn't say what's bad about >> systemd :-) I really don't know I should care whether my system runs >> OpenRC or systemd. >> >> > > > I'm the OP, and often I don't know how to express myself. > > It is my understanding that systemd is going to force an initramfs on you > even if you only have / and no other partitions. (Could it be initrd and > not initramfs?) > > I'm all for automounting a device when it's plugged in, if that's what the > user chooses. But for me, with my workstation, laptop, wife's PC and > daughter's laptop -- we just don't need or care for it. Seems a shame to be > using udev and then have to completely change your system when 181 comes > out, or freeze it at . > > Therefore, we don't install anything to automount devices. We have lines > such as these in fstab: > > UUID=6C5F-3742 /Libby-Vivitar vfat > noauto,users,rw,gid=100,dmask=0002,fmask=0113 0 0 > > for those devices we own. When we get a new device, we add a new line. > > We don't use a DE either, just Fluxbox. > > The bottom line is that I don't like things being forced on me (hint, "get > the vaseline, they're on the way!") And I don't like upstream forcing such > nefarious changes on the distros. And for the Lennart fanboi, his coding is > so questionable that "Lennartware" has become derogatory slang. (Of course, > you already know that.)
No need to get personal man, relax. I'm getting my PhD in Computer Science, and worked several years as professional programmer. In my not-so-limited experience, Lennart's code is clean, fast, and usually does what he says it will do. So, no, I don't "already" know that. You could argue about the overall design, or what goals his code has, but its quality you are the only one questioning it. So again, please, [citation needed]. You still haven't provided any reference to support your claim that Lennart's code (specifically systemd's code) is "poorly" done. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México