On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:40:27 -0400
"Walter Dnes" <waltd...@waltdnes.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 01:18:24AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote
> 
> > I'm not sure where you're going with this. We're discussing an init
> > system and good, simple ways to start services. App maintainers are
> > going to continue to do whatever they feel they ought to do, some
> > might write the systemd files, some might not - that is what already
> > happens. Someone has to write it and what goes in it depends on what
> > the app code does, not the other way round.  
> 
>   The point I'm making is that if the initialization is moved into the
> binary, then the binary will have to be patched/modified/whatever.
> There's already somebody with a systemd overlay.  Assuming that the
> initialization code gets shoved into the binary, how does it
> simultaneously support openrc/systemd/linux/bsd/Sun/HPUX/etc/etc?  The
> only realistic answer I see is leaving the init code to the distro
> maintainer.  We don't expect the upstream for sshd or any other
> software to write Gentoo-specific stuff like ebuilds.  Whey should
> they be expected to write Gentoo-specific initscripts?

Fair enough

> > As for the last question, I really have no idea where you're taking
> > this. I don't know the answer, I've never been a maintainer in that
> > position. Being the arrogant shit that I am, I reckon I would
> > probably tell the user to piss off and I don't support hobby crap.
> > But hey, that's just what I think I might say while sitting here on
> > my couch.  
> 
>   So you're saying you wouldn't have supported...

No, you're saying that you believe that you think I would say that
based on some extrapolation of I don't know what.

I said no such thing.
I said that I don't know what I would do

Let's not get too carried away with Linus's little project being
representative of anything. It's a fluke. There are 100s of other hobby
systems that went nowhere.



-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com


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