On Wed, 23 May 2012 22:25:37 +0100
Markos Chandras <hwoar...@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 05/23/2012 05:24 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> > On 2012-05-21 5:00 PM, Markos Chandras <hwoar...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >> On 05/21/2012 03:27 PM, Michael Hampicke wrote:
> >>>> I updated udev from 171-r5 to 171-r6 and now i get several udevd
> >>>>   boot message as : udevd[1389]: can not find
> >>>> '/lib/udev/rules.d/90-network.rules': No such file or directory
> >>>> udevd[1389]: can not find '/lib/udev/rules.d/95-keymap.rules': No
> >>>> such file or directory ...................... and so on.
> >>>>
> >>>> /lib is a symlink pointing to /lib64. /lib64/udev/rules.d is ok
> >>>> with all the rules that udevd does not find at boot.
> >>>
> >>> No I would guess it was because of the upgrade of
> >>> sys-apps/baselayout to 2.1-r1. Things got crazy here with that
> >>> upgrade. I had to re-merge every package with files under /lib/ In
> >>>   your case re-merging udev should to the trick.
> > 
> >> The package clearly informed you that you need to reboot for
> >> things to work properly
> >>
> >> "You should reboot the system now to get /run mounted with tmpfs!"
> >>
> >> Have a look on pkg_postinst() function in that ebuild. You chose to
> >> ignore it and this is why you had these problems after the update.
> > 
> > <pet-peeve>
> > I asked about this a while back but never got a decent answer...
> > 
> > *Especially* for servers, there really, REALLY needs to be a way to
> > see this kind of warning BEFORE updating... ie, the warning should
> > be printed to the screen during an 'emerge -pvuDN world' or
> > something, so I know that a reboot will be required for this update.
> > </pet-peeve>
> > 
> This kind of messages are also printed at the end of -uDNav world so
> if you scroll your screen up you can see all the warning/log messages
> from every package that you have updated. Also, these kind of
> messages are logged in /var/log/portage/

You are missing the point.

Tanstaafl wants to know if a reboot *will* be required *before* he does
the update. What you are describing tells him that after the update
completes when it is already too late.

I face the same issue at work. We have a change policy requiring 14
days advance notice of any change affecting service. If I do a routine
world update then have to log an emergency change for an unexpected
reboot, the change manager will have my nuts for breakfast.

If it happens more than once, I'd be having a really unusual
conversation with the CTO which probably ends with him standing behind
me watching while I migrate every single box that isn't RHEL6 (all 200
of them) over to RHEL6 where I *do* have exact knowledge in advance of
the impact of a change.



-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com


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