On Sun, 26 May 2013 07:10:53 -0500
Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On 26/05/2013 13:03, Dale wrote:
> >> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >>> On 26/05/2013 11:51, Dale wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> What package provides the kicker thingy?  I think in KDE3 it was called
> >>>> kicker but it appears to have changed to something else.  Is that
> >>>> krunner that has it now?
> >>> Maybe it's time you used the "thingy" suffix a little less and the real
> >>> names of things a little more :-)
> >>>
> >>> What thing are you asking about? The panel that is usually at the bottom
> >>> and holds the plasma widgets? Or the thin popup you get with Alt-F2?
> >>>
> >>> The panel is called plasma-desktop and comes from 
> >>> kde-base/plasma-workspace
> >>> The popup is krunner and comes from kde-base/krunner
> >>>
> >>> I doubt very much it's a real bug as such in either KDE app (although
> >>> the fix might go in there). It looks much more to me like a side-effect
> >>> of IO blocking - two or more apps are trying to get something done and
> >>> unexpectedly are not getting answers, so they hang around waiting in the
> >>> doorway and get get in the way of everything else. And just for fun,
> >>> video drivers are also trying to get in on the act as they have to deal
> >>> with mouse pointer repaints...
> >>>
> >>> Debugging this one is going to be fun (for peculiar definitions of fun)
> >>>
> >>>
> >> The thingy is the thing at the bottom where I can switch desktops, click
> >> the K menu and where my clock is.  I think it was called Kicker in
> >> KDE3.  KDE4 seems to have changed it but not sure what the new name is. 
> > It's a plasma widget called a panel, the only useful thing it does is to
> > be a container for other widgets that do useful stuff.
> >
> > The panel is started by plasma-desktop as one of the standard widgets it
> > manages. The idea is to give you stuff on the screen that looks more or
> > less like a familiar desktop. Plasma can do other things and give you
> > completely different layouts; like for instance not giving you a panel
> > at all. This would be useful on a phone with small screen
> >
> > The whole thing is heavily event based and has to react to a bucket load
> > of system events being generated such as what the mouse is doing.
> > There's a fantastic number of ways this could go wrong, some might be
> > plasma's fault, some might be faults that happen to plasma
> 
> 
> I'll try to remember to call it a panel thingy then.  ROFL 
> 
> 
> >> I hope they fix this thing soon.  If they remove the driver from the
> >> tree, I'm in a bit of a pickle. 
> > No, you won't be. You have the ebuild right now, copy it to your overlay
> > and "remove" becomes something that will not happen
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Last time I did that, it didn't work out well.  Actually, it just plain
> didn't work.  May as well tell it like it is.  ;-)  I'll save a copy
> just in case. 
> 
> Cross that bridge when I get there I guess. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 
> -- 
> I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
> you interpreted my words!
> 
> 
I suspect it's the fact your using the ~arch version of kde (4.10.3) is not 
fully stable yet and yes there be bugs in them valleys. 

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