On 20/08/2013 06:00, jo...@antarean.org wrote: > Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Mon, August 19, 2013 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:17:06 +0100, Stroller wrote: > > Here's a short, very in-comprehensive list of software > we are aware > of that currently are not able to provide the full set > of functionality > when /usr is split off and not pre-mounted at boot: > udev-pci-db/udev-usb-db and all rules depending on this > (using the > PCI/USB database in /usr/share), PulseAudio, NetworkManager, > ModemManager, udisks, libatasmart, usb_modeswitch, > gnome-color-manager, > usbmuxd, ALSA, D-Bus, CUPS, Plymouth, LVM, hplip, > multipath, Argyll, > VMWare, the locale logic of most programs and a lot of > other stuff. [1] > > How much of that is needed before the contents of /etc/fstab are > mounted? I certainly don't need to run a desktop, used a 3G > modem, play > sounds or load a virtual machine before then. Yes, LVM may > be needed, but > the needed parts are in /sbin anyway, so that is a red > herring too. > > It is a red herring. > I currently use an initramfs, but that is because I decided to > put "/" on > LVM as well. > When I had "/" as a normal partition and /usr on LVM, there were > no issues > with booting. Currently, with the initramfs, I get errors about > / and /usr > not being able to umount during shutdown. > > -- > Joost > > > > > > I to have / on a traditional partition, ext4, and /boot on a small ext2 > partition. Everything else is on LVM. I don't want a init thingy > either. I had nightmares with that > thing when I used Mandrake years > ago. I can't recall the name of that thing that left me with no > keyboard/mouse but I still remember that init thingy. Dang, what was > that thing that did that? Anyway, as bad a taste as that other thing > left, the init thingy is even worse. I still remember the init thingy > 10 YEARS later. The other thing was a few years ago. > > I bet Alan remembers. I was plenty pissed. That is likely the most > pissed I ever been on this list. If that guy had been in front of me, > I'd be in jail. I got to many trees around here. O-o > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > > I also still remember. > Not going to mention it now. But will give a hint. > What is the name of the computer that said: "I'm sorry Dale, I can't let > you do that."?
bwahahahaha :-) Yes, we all remember Dale's troubles with that thing a few years ago. 2001 was a good move and a good book too (just finished both again as it turns out). 2010 doesn't quite match up though... -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
