On 2014-11-22 18:12, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
The first 100 or so I looked at, are deprecated. They just need
somebody
to 'remove them' the BGO java backlog is being artificially used to
prevent java work on gentoo. Somebody of authority needs to open
up java for other folks to work on. Close the 100 oldest bugs
is a no brainer and a good start, yet nobody will do that, and nobody
else is allowed to close them.
As i've been reading this thread it appears to be more and more that
there is a large feeling of a commune. It's not so much the hippy free
living and off grid everyone helping each other that most imagine it to
be but more an argument over who is going to buy the toilet paper this
week.
I've been using gentoo a while now and it was the incredible
documentation that turned me on to it, and these days if i need help
with something i'll go via man page, then the originator website and
eventually i might go to gentoo forums or look at the source code.
we are all in this together and our love of freedom, choice combined
with our collective sheer bloody minded-ness means we are unlikely to
drop gentoo for anything else.
now, we are all flying from the seat of our pants, and there are a few
saying "how do i help gentoo". i understand the confusion with this
question because i've kind of looked myself and not really got past the
first step. there was even a thread in this mailing list nearly a year
and a half ago asking the same thing [1]
all of gentoo council meetings happen on irc if i remember right so it's
not like there is an elite group deciding fate they are just sorting
things that need to be sorted.
do we really need a "mark shuttleworth" to start a rallying cry saying
"this way" and drawing a line in the sand we must hop over?
maybe it's just a shepherd to be more active in the recruitment and then
its a case of -- where to start collecting people?
perhaps in the staffing requirements there should be a gentoo marketeer
to push more information out to planet gentoo [2] ? there was another
discussion about "the end of herds" and this kind of thing really needs
to be voiced louder to maintain transparency, though it doesn't affect
me directly.
i think i need to get in touch with the project:documentation team and
see if i can help as there exists a java project page [3] but this is
not mentioned in the wiki for an example [4] of what adds to confusion
maybe what we need is a gentoo "unifier" to ensure that all content is
unified across all information channels (old and new wikis, mailing
lists, forums). good luck with that role...and finally i leave you with
[5] a link to soylentnews with the kind of openness and transparency
that it would be incredible to see from gentoo.org. i appreciate a news
site that spawned because of hatred of slashdot's beta program is not
the same thing as a linux meta-distribution however, there are anonymous
contributors, folks responsible for things and yet someone who is
actively involving the website's readers/members. i don't know if anyone
is familiar with soylentnews' startup process but there were daily
posts, invitations to irc where things were genuinely involving everyone
all the way up from domain name _ownership_ and seeking help with
hosting payments. i try to help with gentoo here on the mailing list
when i can and on the forums too but i know very little of the gentoo
foundation [6]
getting in touch with the documenation team [7] i think will be my first
step; now to allocate the time (!)
[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/267858
[2] http://planet.gentoo.org/
[3] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/index.xml
[4] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Category:Projects
[5] http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/09/15/1857254
[6] https://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/
[7] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Documentation
