Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-08 18:02 (UTC+0100):

> On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:29 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:

>> Yep, I find it infuriating that by default all distros seem to go to
>> great effort to hide as much information about the boot/startup
>> process as possible.  WTF?  Do they think that stuff is top secret or
>> something?  Are they afraid they'll lose their jobs if that info gets
>> out?

> No, they think that the type of user they are trying to attract is likely
> to be scared off by all that cryptic text scrolling by. They are probably
> right.

> Gentoo doesn't hide it, it merely clears the screen once the boot has
> completed successfully.

Clear happens so quickly the messages may as well have never been there. I
get to see first maybe 4 or 5 if I don't blink at the wrong time.

> If the boot halts, you can see where and,
> usually, why it stopped. Try that with openUbundora.

I'm not sure Fedostemdtering hasn't incorporated noclear for tty1 by default.
I dislike Anaconda, so don't install it often, preferring to upgrade with
Yum->DNF. I just booted an F23 installation that didn't clear, but I can't
say that wasn't because I long ago reconfigured systemd.

openSUSE has been my distro of choice since before it was born, as SuSE 8.2.
Except for a period of transitioning from sysvinit to systemd[1], noclear has
been always its default for *getty on tty1. To actually have all the init
messages reach tty1 requires eliminating splash=silent and/or quiet from boot
stanza, but that's easy rote during its installer's bootloader configuration
step, and easily doable on the fly in Grub GFXboot if overlooked during
installation.

[1] https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721660
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