"J. Roeleveld" <jo...@antarean.org> writes:

> On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 09:32:55 PM lee wrote:
>> "J. Roeleveld" <jo...@antarean.org> writes:
>> > On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 08:03:25 PM Mick wrote:
>> >> On Tuesday 29 Dec 2015 17:37:25 lee wrote:
>> >> > Are we at the point where users are accepting to have to install and
>> >> > maintain a fully fledged RDBMS just for a single application which
>> >> > doesn't even need a database in the first place?
>> >> 
>> >> Yes, a sad state of affairs indeed.  I was hoping for the last 5-6 years
>> >> that someone  who can code would come to their senses with this
>> >> application
>> >> and agree that not all desktop application use cases require some
>> >> enterprise level database back end architecture, when a few flat data
>> >> files
>> >> have served most users perfectly fine for years.  I mean, do I *really*
>> >> need a database for less that 60 entries in my address book?!!
>> > 
>> > I'm no longer convinced a database isn't needed.
>> > Kmail1 was slower than kmail2 is these days.
>> 
>> We are talking here about a single application.  Are users nowadays
>> generally willing, inclined and in the position to deploy a RDBMS just
>> in order to use a single application?  Can they be expected to run
>> several RDBMSs when the next application comes along and suggests mysql
>> instead of postgresql?
>
> Most applications use a database of one type or another.
> Flatfiles are a bad idea when performance is important with large datasets.

Then why don't they all use postgresql or mysql?  It might then make
sense to install either of them.

> My email is a large dataset.

Not every large dataset is suited to be stored in a database like mysql
or postgresql.  That's particularly true for email.

>> Ironically, in this case you require the RDBMS to be able to use an
>> application which is too unstable to be used even without one.  Why not
>> use a better application for the same purpose instead?  You wouldn't
>> have to worry about your emails then.
>
> I don't worry about my emails.
> I find kmail2 to be more stable and usable then kmail1.

I'm surprised you're not worried when it seems not unusual that kmail
becomes unstable and even randomly deletes email.

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