Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> writes: > On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:55:27 +0100, lee wrote: > >> > Firstly, things like Flash and Skype are not special cases, they are >> > widely used and many of us have to use them, whether we like it or >> > not. >> >> They are special cases. Flash never really worked, and when it does, >> it's pretty much unusable because it's too crappy. Skype only kinda >> works and is not usable due to total lack of privacy. > > You can call those and other binary-only programs special cases as much > as you like, and maybe they are for you. But for many people there is no > real choice but to use them.
Of course it's a choice, no matter whether ppl make it or not. >> > Secondly, no one is forcing you to use anything? There is a >> > no-multilib profile, >> >> There doesn't seem to be a desktop profile that isn't multilib. > > Probably for the reasons I've already suggested, but you don't have to > use a desktop profile. > >> > and nothing to stop you creating a no-multilib version of your >> > preferred desktop profile if you so wish (the desktop profiles are >> > basically a different set of default USE flags). >> >> I wouldn't know how to do that. > > emerge --info with the desktop profile to get a list of USE flags, then > set those same flags on the no-multilib profile. What's so hard? It is something you need to know before you can do it. Look at the instructions on the wiki for installing kde, for example. They tell you to use the corresponding profile. That profile is a multilib profile, and you cannot switch to a multilib profile from a non-multilib one. Of course, I choose a non-multilib profile when I install. >> In any case, the default is simply wrong. > > Of course it is, it's a default, it can't be right for everyone. That's > why it is a default starting point, not an enforced setting. If you don't > want to move away from the defaults, what are you using Gentoo? Ok, it's not only wrong, it's badly made. Who knows what all a profile does. >> > Multilib should be going away on due time. Until then you have two >> > courses of action: complain about it or use a no-multilib profile >> > with your preferred flags. Only one of those choices has any real >> > benefit. >> >> There is no non-multilib profile one could use when they want a desktop >> profile. Perhaps multilib goes away in 20 years or so, or never. That >> doesn't help. > > However long it takes, the timescale will not be altered by one second by > any amount of complaining in here. Well, I suppose you have no idea how awfully stupid and retarded it is to encounter criticism and/or suggestions, or questioning something, by claiming that someone is complaining.
