Hi Mick,

Mick wrote:

> On Thursday 08 Jun 2017 02:04:44 Jörg Schaible wrote:
>> Mick wrote:
>> > On Tuesday 06 Jun 2017 16:35:40 you wrote:
>> >> Hi All,
>> >> 
>> >> I've updated a number of kde (plasma) packages, including kde-
>> >> frameworks/kwallet-5.34.0-r1.  A depclean action wanted to remove
>> >> kde-apps/kwalletd-16.04.3-r1 and I let it do its tha'ng.
>> >> 
>> >> Following a new login I discovered that *every* time I wanted to send
>> >> a
>> >> message I was being asked for the SMTP password.  For some users with
>> >> 6 or
>> >> more email accounts this soon became tiresome.  The pop up advises
>> >> that the password should be saved in kwallet and offers the choice to
>> >> save it in ...
>> >> the configuration file!  It also advises that although it will be
>> >> obfuscated
>> >> it will not be safe in the configuration file.  There are two buttons,
>> >> one to save the password in the configuration file and another to not
>> >> save it (at all).
>> >> 
>> >> So to retain what sanity I may have left, I had to re-install kde-
>> >> apps/kwalletd-16.04.3-r1, which appears to be able to manage SMTP
>> >> passwords without asking each time the user.
>> >> 
>> >> Have you noticed the same?  Is there a fix or workaround for this?
>> > 
>> > Just to clarify, there doesn't seem to be a problem with IMAP4
>> > passwords, only with SMTP.
>> > 
>> > When updating to kde-frameworks/kwallet-5.34.0-r1 I noticed this elog
>> > message, which implies I should no longer need the old kwalletd4:
>> > 
>> > "LOG: postinst
>> > Starting with 5.34.0-r1, kwallet is able to serve applications
>> > that still require old kwalletd4. After migration has finished,
>> > kde-apps/kwalletd can be removed."
>> > 
>> > So, do I have to wait for Kmail:4 to be updated to Kmail:5 before I
>> > give up on kwalletd4 despite the above message?
>> 
>> I had the same problem. But event if kwalletd is installed, it was no
>> longer started.
> 
> Yes, this seems to be the problem.  Starting Kmail does not launch
> kwalletd5 and as a consequence kmail starts asking for each email account
> password separately.
> 
> I guess until kmail:5 is installed I will have to start kwalletd5 by hand.

My situation is different, since I use kwallet-pam. That one will start 
kwallet5 automatically and I am not asked by KMail for passwords (after it 
now also uses kwallet5).

>> Note, you should install knotify:4 if you want notifications about failed
>> mail delivery from KMail. That was removed for me in an dependency
>> clean-up, because I had no entry for it in world.
> 
> Hmm ... I thought kde-apps/knotify:4 was replaced with kde-
> frameworks/knotifyconfig:5?

I simply recognized following line in the error log:

akonadi_newmailnotifier_agent(6002)/kdeui (KNotification) 
KNotification::slotReceivedIdError: Error while contacting notify daemon 
"The name org.kde.knotify was not provided by any .service files"

After installing knotify:4 I suddenly got desktopn messages from KMail 
again.

> A user complained that new messages no longer create a popup.

Seems to match the error log.

Cheers,
Jörg


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