Daniel Frey wrote: > On 12/8/22 05:58, Dale wrote: >> >> >> I was thinking DAS was not a good option. It seems like a feature >> removed and cheaper version of NAS. >> >> I think I've seen a couple Synology NAS boxes but I think even used >> they were a bit pricey. Still, used could make that a option. >> Maybe. It could fall into the category of pay a little more for a >> much better option, even if it is used. >> >> I've considered using older systems I have for NAS but they are >> large. Way to large. It would require a lot of effort to shrink >> them down if it is even possible. A NAS is smaller and designed for >> what I need as well. This is what I found that goes with the >> Raspberry Pi. >> >> https://shop.allnetchina.cn/collections/sata-hat/products/dual-sata-hat-open-frame-for-raspberry-pi-4 >> >> >> There is a two bay and a four bay version. I think the case is the >> same for both so I may go with four for future expansion. Price >> isn't bad for that part but as you say, Raspberry Pi board is a bit >> pricey. Thing is, given the amount of control I'd have over it, it >> could be a better option long term. I might add, I think this board >> is somewhat new. I meant to include a link to it but forget. It >> could be that you are not aware of that, or many other people >> either. Also, I'd like to buy it from a more local vendor. I've >> bought things from China through Ebay but it has a guarantee and >> refund option that is fairly good. It's a option I've had to >> exercise a time or two. >> >> Part of me wants to buy a used but well featured NAS box. Part of me >> thinks a Raspberry would be better and have upgrade options in the >> future as well. I'm pretty sure I could have encryption on a >> Raspberry NAS as well. I'm not sure if a prebuilt NAS box has >> encryption or not. >> >> Hope for some good ideas tho. I'd like to avoid buying something >> that won't come close to serving even current needs or just plain >> doesn't work. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) > > Dale, > > DAS is direct attached storage. If your intention is to share the data > with multiple devices for backup you will need to keep in mind that > you will need a PC to share the data the DAS device is storing. In > general, most DAS require some sort of HBA (some of these HBAs can be > hundreds to thousands of dollars.) I've seen some eSata ones but they > usually don't have stellar reviews. It's also getting harder to find > eSata devices. > > In contrast NAS devices are designed to plug in to the network and be > shared with multiple devices on the LAN right from the get-go. > > You are probably interested in a NAS, not a DAS. > > I have an aging ix4-300d NAS. The display has started crashing now but > the device is still rock solid. However I'm in the same boat and have > been researching options - I think for my case I will get a small cube > case and mini-ITX board and roll my own Gentoo install. The cost may > even be slightly cheaper as 4 bay NAS here are quite expensive where I > am (with no drives installed) and building my own will be a bit > cheaper and I can choose what drives to run in it. Vulnerabilities on > devices like QNAP and Synology are very real and at least if you can > roll your own you can keep that to a minimum (like an example not > running a web browser to configure things.) > > Dan > >
I was thinking DAS wouldn't fit my needs. Just wasn't real sure what the difference was. Someone always coming up with something that only half works. :/ Right now, I have a modem/router in one that the ISP provided. I have a separate router that I use since I can control access with it. The ISP modem/router can not be accessed by me. Supposedly, it has some protection but without access, who knows. Either way, I'd connect a NAS to my router that I control and if possible, forbid internet access. If possible, I may restrict it to ethernet access only, no wifi connection either. That should lock it down. Also, I only update backups once a week for maybe a hour or less. The window for a hacker would be small anyway. I looked into buying/building a really small puter but with a lot of drive bays. Thing is, they have few SATA ports and not many ways to add any plus they end up being to large. I really don't like USB for my data much. I've had a lot of bad experiences with USB and hard drives. Still, if this Raspberry thing uses it and others make it work fine, I'd give it a shot. Still reading posts and trying to sort things out. Also, searching around for NAS boxes just in case I run up on a steal of a deal. :-D Dale :-) :-)
