Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 10:44:39PM +0100 schrieb Michael: > >> Why don't you test throughput without encryption to confirm your assumption? > What does `cryptsetup benchmark` say? I used to use a Celeron G1840 in my > NAS, which is Intel Haswell without AES_NI. It was able to do ~ 150 MB/s raw > encryption throughput when transferring to or from a LUKS’ed image in a > ramdisk, so almost 150 % of gigabit ethernet speed.
When I first set up the old 770T system, I did that. It was faster with no encryption on the 770T end but I did have encryption on my main rig's end. The difference was a pretty good bit. Pretty much all my stuff is encrypted. Anyway, I was still using the old mount options and it was still faster. I've never used that benchmark. Didn't know it exists. This is the results. Keep in mind, fireball is my main rig. The FX-8350 thingy. The NAS is currently the old 770T system. Sometimes it is a old Dell Inspiron but not this time. ;-) root@fireball / # cryptsetup benchmark # Tests are approximate using memory only (no storage IO). PBKDF2-sha1 878204 iterations per second for 256-bit key PBKDF2-sha256 911805 iterations per second for 256-bit key PBKDF2-sha512 698119 iterations per second for 256-bit key PBKDF2-ripemd160 548418 iterations per second for 256-bit key PBKDF2-whirlpool 299251 iterations per second for 256-bit key argon2i 4 iterations, 1048576 memory, 4 parallel threads (CPUs) for 256-bit key (requested 2000 ms time) argon2id 4 iterations, 1048576 memory, 4 parallel threads (CPUs) for 256-bit key (requested 2000 ms time) # Algorithm | Key | Encryption | Decryption aes-cbc 128b 63.8 MiB/s 51.4 MiB/s serpent-cbc 128b 90.9 MiB/s 307.6 MiB/s twofish-cbc 128b 200.4 MiB/s 218.4 MiB/s aes-cbc 256b 54.6 MiB/s 37.5 MiB/s serpent-cbc 256b 90.4 MiB/s 302.6 MiB/s twofish-cbc 256b 198.2 MiB/s 216.7 MiB/s aes-xts 256b 68.0 MiB/s 45.0 MiB/s serpent-xts 256b 231.9 MiB/s 227.6 MiB/s twofish-xts 256b 191.8 MiB/s 163.1 MiB/s aes-xts 512b 42.4 MiB/s 18.9 MiB/s serpent-xts 512b 100.9 MiB/s 124.6 MiB/s twofish-xts 512b 154.8 MiB/s 173.3 MiB/s root@fireball / # root@nas:~# cryptsetup benchmark # Tests are approximate using memory only (no storage IO). PBKDF2-sha1 741567 iterations per second for 256-bit key PBKDF2-sha256 910222 iterations per second for 256-bit key PBKDF2-sha512 781353 iterations per second for 256-bit key PBKDF2-ripemd160 547845 iterations per second for 256-bit key PBKDF2-whirlpool 350929 iterations per second for 256-bit key argon2i 4 iterations, 571787 memory, 4 parallel threads (CPUs) for 256-bit key (requested 2000 ms time) argon2id 4 iterations, 524288 memory, 4 parallel threads (CPUs) for 256-bit key (requested 2000 ms time) # Algorithm | Key | Encryption | Decryption aes-cbc 128b 130.6 MiB/s 128.0 MiB/s serpent-cbc 128b 64.7 MiB/s 161.8 MiB/s twofish-cbc 128b 175.4 MiB/s 218.8 MiB/s aes-cbc 256b 120.1 MiB/s 122.2 MiB/s serpent-cbc 256b 84.5 MiB/s 210.8 MiB/s twofish-cbc 256b 189.5 MiB/s 218.6 MiB/s aes-xts 256b 167.0 MiB/s 162.1 MiB/s serpent-xts 256b 173.9 MiB/s 204.5 MiB/s twofish-xts 256b 204.4 MiB/s 213.2 MiB/s aes-xts 512b 127.9 MiB/s 122.9 MiB/s serpent-xts 512b 201.5 MiB/s 204.7 MiB/s twofish-xts 512b 215.0 MiB/s 213.0 MiB/s root@nas:~# Is that about what you would expect? Fireball is on a 970 mobo. It's slightly newer. I think the 770T is about 2 years older, maybe 3. >>>> If you're copying over the network, that will be the limiting factor. >>> Someone posted some extra options to mount with and add to exports >>> file. > Ah right, you use NFS. If not, I’d have suggested not to use rsync over ssh, > because that would indeed introduce a lot of encryption overhead. > I thought nfs was the proper way. I use ssh and I use rsync, separately. Didn't know they can be used together tho. >>> I still think encryption is slowing it down some. As you say tho, >>> ethernet isn't helping which is why I may look into other options later, >>> faster ethernet or fiber if I can find something cheap enough. >> There are a lot of hypotheses in your statements, but not much testing to >> prove or disprove any of them. >> >> Why don't you try to isolate the cause by testing one system element at a >> time >> and see what results you get. >> […] >> Unless you're running Pentium 4 or some other old CPU, it is almost certain >> your CPU is capable of using AES-NI to offload to hardware some/all of the >> encryption/decryption load - as long as you have the crypto module built in >> your kernel. > The FX-8350 may be old, but it actually does have AES instructions. > > Here is my Haswell i5 (only two years younger than the FX) with AES_NI: > > ~ LC_ALL=C cryptsetup benchmark > # Tests are approximate using memory only (no storage IO). > PBKDF2-sha1 1323959 iterations per second for 256-bit key > PBKDF2-sha256 1724631 iterations per second for 256-bit key > PBKDF2-sha512 1137284 iterations per second for 256-bit key > PBKDF2-ripemd160 706587 iterations per second for 256-bit key > PBKDF2-whirlpool 510007 iterations per second for 256-bit key > argon2i 7 iterations, 1048576 memory, 4 parallel threads (CPUs) for > 256-bit key (requested 2000 ms time) > argon2id 7 iterations, 1048576 memory, 4 parallel threads (CPUs) for > 256-bit key (requested 2000 ms time) > # Algorithm | Key | Encryption | Decryption > aes-cbc 128b 679.8 MiB/s 2787.0 MiB/s > serpent-cbc 128b 91.4 MiB/s 582.1 MiB/s > twofish-cbc 128b 194.9 MiB/s 368.3 MiB/s > aes-cbc 256b 502.3 MiB/s 2155.4 MiB/s > serpent-cbc 256b 90.3 MiB/s 582.5 MiB/s > twofish-cbc 256b 194.0 MiB/s 368.6 MiB/s > aes-xts 256b 2470.8 MiB/s 2478.7 MiB/s > serpent-xts 256b 537.4 MiB/s 526.1 MiB/s > twofish-xts 256b 347.3 MiB/s 347.3 MiB/s > aes-xts 512b 1932.6 MiB/s 1958.0 MiB/s > serpent-xts 512b 532.9 MiB/s 522.9 MiB/s > twofish-xts 512b 348.4 MiB/s 348.9 MiB/s > > The 6 Watts processor in my Surface Go yields: > aes-xts 512b 1122,2 MiB/s 1123,7 MiB/s > > -- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ Please do not share anything > from, with or about me on any social network. The severity of the itch > is inversely proportional to the reach. That may explain why I don't see as much load on my main rig then. It has the extra instructions. I'm not sure if the 770T does or not. It has Ubuntu so I can't run the Gentoo CPU flag thingy. So, I checked /proc/cpuinfo and it doesn't show it on the 770T but my main rig Fireball does. So, it seems Fireball has it, older 770T NAS box does not. That could be a bottleneck. Maybe. Eventually, I'll get this all sorted. Fireball may become the NAS box thingy. New rig would be my main system. Maybe. Hard to say right now. There will be a new rig for my main system but not sure on rest. o_O One thing I did learn about LVM. I hooked the drives I had on the old Dell to the 770T and it saw the LVM drives setup right away. I just used cryptsetup as usual and off it went. I've never did that before. Works just like a regular drive. :-D Nifty. Dale :-) :-)