On Saturday 27 May 2006 19:58, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Richard Fish wrote:
> > On 5/27/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> gcc update "Nothing needs to be done".... Sure... How much did the
> >> person who wrote this check? "Hello World!" worked, and that's it?
> >>
> >> Sometimes this complete lack of QA is really pissing me off :(
> >
> > Stop using ~arch packages, or stop whining.
>
> No, I won't do neither. The GWN and the upgrade doc used to say,
> that an upgrade is (basically) riskless.
>


no it does not.
You are talking bullshit. 

GWN:

The number of applications that do not compile with gcc-4.1 is extremely small 
now, and most users should not experience any problems with ~arch packages 
not compiling.

Read it, understand it. It is hard, I know. But it does not say 'riskless'. 
Not even 'basically riskless'. Read again.

And the uzpgrade guide says:
Generally speaking, upgrades to bug fix releases, like from 3.3.5 to 3.3.6, 
should be quite safe -- just emerge new version, switch your system to use it 
and rebuild the only affected package, libtool. However, some GCC upgrades 
break binary compatibility; in such cases a rebuild of the affected packages 
(or even whole toolchain and system) might be required.



> >  ~arch works most of the
> > time, but it is a _testing_ branch.  Do you expect the devs to login
> > to each and every Gentoo user's system to test a new package and
> > ensure complete functionality before adding it to ~arch?
>
> Bullshit.
>
> I'd expect them to do testing and not give so bold statements
> as "The upgrade should be incredibly easy and require no additional
> work to install and use. " without making VERY sure, that this
> is actually true.
>

and ~arch is the testing ground. Basic testing 'it works or it works not' are 
the hard-masked packages.
Maybe you should calm down?
Or do you want to stay in your sulk-mode and act like a prima donna?


> And what's also irritating are so many small errors, like files
> with non-matching filesizes/checksums in the digests.
>
> > I just upgraded to gcc-4.1 and pruned 3.4.6, and KDE, koffice, OOo,
> > and mozilla all still load and run fine.
>
> Did you yet re-compile Qt 3 and Qt 4? No?
>
> Then you're experiences just don't count. KDE broke on my
> system, when I recompiled Qt. Before the recompile, KDE was fine.
> As I've wrote in lengths on the bug report. Seems you've not read
> it - why not? Why am I writing reports and *also* post links
> here?
>

oh, that is sooo surprising. Most of the times, a qt-update requires 
recompiling kdelibs, base and network (and kdepim). Something that happens 
even without gcc-updates.

> Did you try to compile glib? No? Then I guess you've done no testing.

if he does not have glib?

> Or what kind of testing have you done?

enough for his system?

>
> >  Since these are all heavy
> > C++ users, I am sure that for my (pure ~x86) system, there are no
> > issues.
>
> Congrats. It's not only me who's having problems.
>

no, you are not the only one, but you are one who makes a lot of fuss about 
problems, that are easy to solve and even happen without any gcc updates  - 
and you should have learnt to deal with a long time ago.
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