Discharging at depth will presumably cost energy, so what does that do to the economics, not to mention effects on mid-depth marine ecosystems where it will suddenly get a whole lot warmer/colder and O2 enriched/depleted? Greg ________________________________ From: Robert Cohen [[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:36 PM To: Ronal W. Larson Cc: Rau, Greg; [email protected] Subject: Re: [geo] Speaking of artificial upwelling
Dear Ron, It would be quite inadvisable to discharge the condenser effluent of ocean thermal plants into the photic zone. Responsible plant-designers and plant-operators should avoid that practice, by discharging that effluent at greater depths. That topic was discussed at the Asia Pacific Clean Energy Summit 2013<http://www.ct-si.org/events/APCE2013/program/dag.html> held last month in Hawaii. Please note in this connection the e-mail below, and its attachments, which I received from Dr. Luis Vega, Regards, [cid:[email protected]] Robert C ohen, Ph.D., Consultant Specialist in Ocean Thermal Energy 1410 Sunshine Canyon Drive Boulder, Colorado 80302 USA (303) 443-4884 mobile: (303) 249-7859 <http://www.robertcohen.org/> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> ----------- Begin forwarded message: From: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Fw: Help OTEC from new IMO-OTEC Date: September 16, 2013 3:34:04 PM MDT To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;> Reply-To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> The following information was provided by Prof. Yasu Ikegami of Saga University in Japan. If indeed the International Maritime Organization (IMO) were to approve this amendment on October 14, OTEC would be incorrectly classified as an "ocean fertilization" activity and essentially banned from implementation. This ignores the fact that all serious OTEC designs and ongoing development proposals include returning the seawater to the ocean below the photic layer such that enhancing primary productivity would not be feasible. Please alert others of this situation and if you know your IMO country's delegate contact her/him. Luis Luis A. Vega, Ph.D. Manager National Marine Renewable Energy Center University of Hawaii 1680 East West Road, POST 112A Honolulu, HI 96822 USA (808) 956-2335 (landline) (808) 221-5267 (mobile) [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://hinmrec.hnei.hawaii.edu/ -----Original Message----- From: Yasuyuki Ikegami Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:36 PM To: Luis Vega UH Mail Cc: 池上 康之 Subject: 【IOES-II】Help OTEC from new IMO-OTEC Aloha Luis-san, I am very happy to meet you again in Honolulu. By the way, as I explained, I would like to request you to help OTEC for future. I have introduced on IMO (International Maritime Organization) situation on OTEC. It is VERY VERY Serious situation for OTEC. If this serious situation will be realized, OTEC business will be VERY difficult. Please check the our document. It is VERY VERY TOO BAD situation for OTEC promotion in the world. You can get the including document from the following the WEB. Please get more information of IMO, http://www.imo.org/Pages/home.aspx Already, I would request Dr. Hyeon-Ju Kim to help OTEC against IMO. And I sent him same document. If adopted on october 2013, before placement of matter for ocean fertilization, OTEC, SWAC and DOWA, a party must submit an application for a permit outlining the scientific or research relevancy, and licensing in the concerned country will only occur after certain conditions are met. If adopted, the activity of OTEC and SWAC and DOWA will be decreased immediately and will be STOP perfectly. I would like to propose that IMO will be adopted without OTEC, SWAC and DOWA perfectly. SO, I would like to ask you to HELP us, OTEC and Blue revolution. But it is no time and limited time until October 14, 2013. Please help and give us the GOOD IDEA to help OTEC from IMO. Keep in touch with you for OTEC on IMO. With best regards, Yasu -------------------------------------------------------- Yasu <Yasuyuki> IKEGAMI, Leader of OTEC Division, Institute of Ocean Energy,Saga University, JAPAN E-mail:[email protected], TEL:+81-952-20-4744(28-8624),FAX:+81-952-20-4745 http://www.ioes.saga-u.ac.jp/ http://www.facebook.com/OTEC.fan.page.International --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- On Oct 13, 2013, at 19:55 , Ronal W. Larson wrote: Greg and list: The information below doesn't use either of the terms SRM or CDR. But I have known a former federal manager of OTEC for about 40 years (Dr. Bob Cohen). I have discussed with him several ways that CDR could be encouraged via OTEC. Anyone interested in making contact - drop me a line. Dr. Cohen is a valuable free (and passionate) resource on this topic. Ron On Oct 13, 2013, at 9:09 PM, "Rau, Greg" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Anyone care to estimate the net atmospheric CO2 impact of bringing deep ocean water to the surface to perform OTEC and then discharging the water in the surface ocean? +/- renewable electricity benefits? Greg ________________________________ From: French, Bruce [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 6:06 AM To: Rau, Greg Subject: OTE Corporation - Bahamas & OTEC Competitors Greg, OTE, as you know, has been around for a few decades. It appears to be coming to life again after the Lockheed OTEC sale to China. http://www.otecorporation.com/news_reader/items/ocean-thermal-energy-corporation-announces-7650000-equity-offering-under-the-new-jobs-act.html “In addition to its Energy Services Agreement to build, own and operate the world's largest deep ocean SDC system, OTE has concluded that other SDC and OTEC contracts are likely to follow in various locations such as the US Virgin Islands, the Caribbean, East Africa, the Pacific Rim and US Department of Defense bases, the latter of which are mandated to reach a 25% renewable energy goal by 2025. Memoranda of Understanding (MoUs) have been signed for at least four projects.” “All projects will be funded with an equity component in the capital structure. The first project in The Bahamas will incorporate equity contributions from OTE, DCO Energy LLC, host country investors, preference capital, loan notes and senior debt. OTE expects that future projects will follow a similar capital structure, which aims to maximize the returns to investors for limited risk.” OTEC competitors see OTEC News at: http://www.otecnews.org/ * Bluerise<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/bluerise/> * DCNS<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/dcns/> * Delft University of Technology<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/delft-university-of-technology/> * Energy Island<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/energy-island/> * ITRI<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/itri/> * Kobe Steel<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/kobe-steel/> * Lockheed Martin<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/lockheed-martin/> * Makai Ocean Engineering<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/makai-ocean-engineering/> * NELHA<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/nelha/> * NIOT<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/niot/> * NOAA<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/noaa/> * Ocees<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/ocees/> * OTE Corporation<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/ote-corporation/> * OTEC International<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/otec-international/> * Saga university<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/saga-university/> * Sea Solar Power<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/sea-solar-power/> * Seawater Greenhouse<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/seawater-greenhouse/> * US Navy<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/us-navy/> * Xenesys<http://www.otecnews.org/entity/xenesys/> ________________________________ Bruce French Sr. Project Manager Environmental -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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