Emails get spam-trapped all the time. It doesn't mean that there's a global conspiracy by the military industrial complex
A On 23 Nov 2017 18:32, "Maggie Zhou" <[email protected]> wrote: Hi all, I don't have the energy to go into details right now, but I feel necessary to alert you all to the following, and urge you to do your own research on this. I believe scientists on this list are genuinely interested in geoengineering as a way to combat the effects of global warming, and that they haven't yet really started carrying out the spraying they've been proposing, although tests are planned for very soon. It's unfortunate that the word "geoengineering" has been confusingly applied to what's behind chemtrails, leading scientists in the genuine field of SRM to be a sort of escape goat for public fury over chemtrails. I've done extensive research on the topic of "chemtrails", and definitely found credible evidence (including govt documents dating back many decades but also current ones, talking about "weather as a weapon", "dominating through weather control", etc.; military whistleblower accounts; undeniable video footage of (colored) chemicals being sprayed from high altitude - i.e., not crop dusting; testimonies at city council meetings by various scientists showing the results of their tests of samples they took themselves, and of the extremely abnormal changes they observed in the chemical composition in the environment as wildlife scientists, over a very short period of time which they say could only be attributed to the areal spraying in those areas). There are too many lines of evidence for this all to be dismissed. Chemtrail spraying has been done the most in western states such as CA, esp. near military bases. I think some of them may have to do with weapons testing, besides weather manipulation (not cooling the planet though). When I was working as a research scientist (molecular biology, then bioinformatics) I was completely enclosed in my own bubble of scientific fields. Only later did I discover the existence of a vast range of covert military research and operations. Bear also in mind that death threats could be sent by trolls, even the mainstream media has exposed on the record how the US military and the intelligence agencies employ a vast army of online trolls to control the narrative they care about, each such personnel uses 10 different online identity at any given time. Email communications could also be interfered with and manipulated. I've experienced it personally. On quite a few occasions, e.g., I was able to confirm that emails sent to or from me have disappeared in transit, i.e., they did not reach the recipient's inbox or spam mailbox. I've been researching and informing about the immoral actions of the Deep State in areas of wars, weapons, etc. So whenever possible, communicate important things by phone. I urge you all to not dismiss this whole thing as crackpot material. Keep in mind though, that if you search in Google, you'll get results based on Google's classification of what type of things you usually read - i.e., you'll probably get as top hits sites that dismiss chemtrails. Try starting in Youtube and search with specific words based on some of the things I mentioned above. Best, Maggie On Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:04 PM, David Sevier < [email protected]> wrote: Yet another piece of living evidence that the IQ curve predicts that 40% of the population will have an IQ of 90 or less. Happy Turkey day to our US cousins. Dave *From:* [email protected] [mailto:geoengineering@ googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Lockley *Sent:* 22 November 2017 23:13 *To:* geoengineering *Subject:* [geo] Chemtrails conspiracy theorists are sending death threats to climate scientists – VICE News https://news.vice.com/story/chemtrails-arent-real-say- harvard-scientists-trying-to-fight-climate-change CLIMATE CHANGE Chemtrails conspiracy theorists are sending death threats to climate scientists Chemtrails conspiracy theorists are sending death threats to climate scientists [image: Share on Facebook][image: Share on Twitter][image: Share via email] <?subject=From%20VICE%20News%3A%20Chemtrails%20conspiracy%20theorists%20are%20sending%20death%20threats%20to%20climate%20scientists&body=https://news.vice.com/story/chemtrails-arent-real-say-harvard-scientists-trying-to-fight-climate-change> By *Hilary Beaumont* <https://news.vice.com/story/author/hilary-beaumont> Nov 22, 2017 As world leaders grapple with reducing greenhouse gases, Harvard scientists are planning to send a balloon into the stratosphere that will spray aerosols to test their ability to reflect sunlight as a way to cool the planet. It’s part of a promising field of research called “solar geo-engineering” that aims to fight global warming. But scientists are coming up against another problem: conspiracy theorists who are convinced that they’re spraying chemicals for the purpose of mind control. ADVERTISEMENT A new report <https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-017-0014-3> by Harvard researchers published in the journal Nature has found that a whopping 60 percent of online posts about solar geo-engineering are conspiracy theories about chemtrails. And scientists are even receiving death threats from chemtrail believers. “You’re a part of this mass conspiracy killing life on Earth as we know it” “You’re a part of this mass conspiracy killing life on Earth as we know it,” one of the report’s authors Gernot Wagner told VICE News, quoting some of the hate mail he has received. Searching the term “chemtrail” yields photo after photo of white streaks in the sky. These streaks are actually contrails — the condensation left by planes as they zoom through the sky. But chemtrail conspiracy theorists believe the planes are spraying chemicals for weather control, or even mind control. Alex Jones of InfoWars, who does not believe in human-caused global warming, asserts that chemtrails are part of a government program in which chemicals are secretly added to jet fuel. “I’ve been talking about this forever,” he exclaimed in a recent video about chemtrails, global warming and geo-engineering. “There is an entire atmospheric terraforming geo-engineering manipulation. They don’t call it chemtrails. And of course the CIA director admitted they have this huge program.” In another recent video Jones says, “There is manipulation of the weather. It’s mainstream news, and the media always picks it up and says I’m crazy. It’s on the Weather Channel that there are secret programs. It’s just so secret we don’t know the details.” Chemtrails are not real. They have been widely debunked, Wagner’s paper states, but 2016 survey data showsbetween 30 and 40 percent of the general U.S. public believes in them. A plane with contrails behind it. The white streaks are condensation left by planes as they zoom through the sky. The Harvard report used an algorithm to analyze a decade of social media posts about solar geo-engineering between 2008 and 2017, mostly on Twitter, to see how many were conspiracy theories and how many were scientific. The majority — 60 percent — were conspiracy theories. Some of the same people who believe in chemtrails are also tweeting about Alex Jones and InfoWars, Wagner told VICE News. Anonymity online helps spread these ideas, he says. Wagner says he has received “plenty of emails” accusing him of being a mass murderer. His colleagues have received them, too. “It is a pretty frustrating situation to be in” In one of his recent chemtrail videos, Jones said scientists can “kill anybody they want” under “research provisions,” which could explain some of the threats Wagner and his colleagues have faced. “It is a pretty frustrating situation to be in,” Wagner says. “This is a relatively new topic,” Wagner says of solar geo-engineering, which has only been researched for 15 years as a way to fight global warming, “There is very little discourse on geo-engineering in general, and now what happens is it’s being dwarfed by, dominated by, those spreading this conspiracy theory.” WHAT IS SOLAR GEO-ENGINEERING? As greenhouse gas emissions (GHGs) continue to increase, they are trapping heat from the sun’s rays, warming the earth and contributing to climate change. The vast majority of world leaders and scientists believe the best way to limit global warming is to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by switching to renewable energy sources. Another strategy is to capture carbon from the atmosphere and store it underground. Scientists see it as a complement to reducing GHGs, or a last resort. For the past 15 years, scientists have been studying solar geo-engineering in the lab as another possible tool to limit global warming. Scientists see it as a complement to reducing GHGs, or a possible last resort if emissions continue to rise. The research is hypothetical at the moment, and has not yet been tested in the real world, Wagner says. When they send a balloon to the stratosphere next year as part of a project called ScopeX, Harvard scientists will be taking the technology from the lab into the real world for the first time. The ScopeX project. (Harvard) Spraying aerosols to reflect sunlight is a relatively cheap option. Scientists are essentially copying a natural mechanism that has been proven to cool the planet: volcanic eruptions. Volcanoes release sulphur which turns into sulphate aerosol at high altitudes. These aerosols have been shown to reflect sunlight, almost like a sunscreen. But sulphur is also known to deplete ozone, a gas which helps protect the planet by filtering sunlight as part of the ozone layer, which makes the technology risky. Scientists want to experiment with different reflective substances like calcium carbonate (found in limestone) or even diamond dust to find the safest option. There are known risks. For instance, a study published last week in the journal Nature used computer models to investigate how sulphur dioxide injections would impact hurricanes in the North Atlantic. The research shows injecting it into only the Northern hemisphere would reduce hurricanes in the North Atlantic. However, if it was injected only in the Southern hemisphere, the sulphur dioxide would increase the number of hurricanes. The takeaway from this and previous studies was that solar geo-engineering, if used evenly across the planet, could reduce the impact of global warming, and if it isn’t used evenly, it could be risky. However, no one in the solar geo-engineering community is advocating for it to be deployed unevenly, according to Anthony Jones of the University of Exeter in the U.K. The scientific community is first asking for world leaders to reduce GHG emissions, and if that is not successful, they want solar geo-engineering to be properly researched and regulated so if it is eventually used in the fight against climate change, officials will be able to weigh the potential risks and rewards. As for chemtrail conspiracy theorists, Wagner says all scientists and journalists can do is present the facts and hope they win out in the end. 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