Andrea Aime wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
>> So the talk wasn't enough to make any strong statements, but I was 
>> left with the impression that unless you want to Grails for the sake 
>> of Groovy, then there was little reason to consider anything but GWT 
>> or Wicket (ie. Tapestry and Struts 2 got grounded).
>>
>> I'm not the best person to ask, but personally I am leaning a little 
>> towards GWT, just because the code/template is less spread (just the 
>> .java files, I don't have to update a template and recompile 
>> something else). I think it may also make it easier to make something 
>> that doesn't look really ugly.
>
> Hum, with GWT you can develop in pure java and the compile just
> afterwards. The issue is, the compiler want to see all the UI.
> So this means, you may be able to split the UI code in more modules,
> but the moment you compile it, it's cast in stone. So you have to
> be in the build environment to decide which modules you want in the
> UI, and once is done, is done, there is no removing or adding.
>
> That's why I ended up discarding it the first round of evaluations.
> It may work, but we have to lower the barrier of what we want out of our
> UI.
> Also, with GWT I'm not sure how much we'd be able to leverage a web
> page designer work, that is, we probably can, but we'd end up
> looking at his templates and then try to replicate them in code, right?
>
> Cheers
> Andrea

After looking at what code is required to make the demo applications 
(which look pretty good, because it takes care of lining everything up) 
I actually thought that was plus.

Depending on someone that really understands CSS is a dependency too. I 
wouldn't have them design the UI and then try to make it, I'd start 
prototyping and then have someone who understands user interactions make 
suggestions and see how it can be done within the framework.

Wicket sounded cool too though.

I think JSF may have been pushed aside in this talk because there's lots 
of separate talk about it. Icefaces has been putting on a pretty good 
show from what I hear, but I haven't been to any of their talks.

-Arne

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