Hi Peter,
note that my +0 is equal to a go, so I am not going to block you.
I am just trying to make everybody remember that the "official extension"
label shall be used for something that is:
- quite stable
- with a significant user base

Did we always enforce this? Definitely not.
Am I asking to enforce this now? No.

So I am happy to have you move on with this proposal :)


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On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 4:24 PM <peter.rushfo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for this note.
>
>
>
> > I like the enthusiasm and I am sure there will be a follow up effort to
> maintain the extension.
>
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
> > I have doubts that the module itself is stable enough and has
> significant users so this is not a +1.
>
>
>
> Fair.  I forgot to mention that the Canadian Forest Service who thought it
> would be a good idea to implement MapML in GeoServer.  I believe they are a
> GeoServer user for production use, so the closer I can get this to
> production quality the more likely they are to use it.  Probably true for
> others as well – a chicken and egg problem.
>
>
>
> > the risk is to go down the "because I need it" route.
>
>
>
> The objective of the MapML / Maps for HTML initiative is to get map
> semantics implemented in HTML, so that a) better, longer-lived mapping
> applications can be developed on top of a standard base b) user
> accessibility of maps and map content is provided via a standard.  The
> intention of this module is to lead and track the effort to attain this
> level of standardization. So right now, I probably don’t actually want too
> many users.  We don’t want to “burn” people with changes to the API, and we
> would like them to be on board with driving what those changes might be,
> and to welcome them because they represent steps toward the overall project
> goal.
>
>
>
> Success for the overall project will could almost be signified by removal
> of this module, although such removal would probably be implemented by
> integration of the module semantics into core, but anyway, at that time
> maps should be part of HTML and so on, and custom element or other
> JavaScript clients won’t be needed to view  a map in a web browser.
>
>
>
> All in all, I see your point, but still would like to do the work to make
> the code fitter and more functional, so that people who do use it don’t
> regret it.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Peter Rushforth
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Simone Giannecchini <simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it>
> *Sent:* February 19, 2021 9:09 AM
> *To:* Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Peter Rushforth <peter.rushfo...@gmail.com>; GeoServer <
> geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
>
>
>
> +0
>
> I like the enthusiasm and I am sure there will be a follow up effort to
> maintain the extension.
>
>
>
> I have doubts that the module itself is stable enough and has significant
> users so this is not a +1.
>
> I was inclined to vote 0 because, because I am reluctant to lower the bar
> on the requirements above which I believe are as important as good code and
> an active maintainer; the risk is to go down the "because I need it" route.
>
> However, we are not talking about adding anything to core so I am happy to
> see this going forward.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Simone Giannecchini
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> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 2:58 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1 That looks great, I especially like the documentation and that the
> module includes a layer preview showing the functionality.
>
> --
>
> Jody Garnett
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 at 05:43, <peter.rushfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> It was suggested that in order to get this module tested on a nightly
> basis, it might be worthwhile doing the work to promote it to an extension.
>
>
>
> Now I’m willing to do the work, with a little bit of guidance, so I wrote
> up a GSIP about it over here:
> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-200
>
>
>
> We recently committed some tests and bug fixes, Javadoc formatting and
> viewer/preview improvements, which although they aren’t complete (73%
> coverage, 49% branch coverage), I intend to improve them as the
> functionality of the module improves.
>
>
>
> Please consider this request and vote on it, if you think it ready for
> that, and send any feedback to me.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Pete Rushforth
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