Hi Jason,
if you could open a ticket I believe it would still be useful, the myth
that prepared statements
are always faster is quite widespread, so I guess many may end up enabling
them.

Cheers
Andrea


On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Jason Newmoyer <ja...@newmoyergeospatial.com
> wrote:

> Great. Thanks for the info! I'll write up this issue with
> preparedStatements not getting simplified. I did not realize that about
> performance with prepared statements on postgres.
>
>
>
>
> Jason Newmoyer
> Newmoyer Geospatial Solutions
> 843.606.0424 <(843)%20606-0424>
> ja...@newmoyergeospatial.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Jason Newmoyer <
>> ja...@newmoyergeospatial.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, I changed PreparedStatements to false and now it is using
>>> ST_Simplify!
>>>
>>> I think that should be considered a bug and I'll be happy to write it up.
>>>
>>
>> Yep. Though, if you care about performance you should not be using
>> prepared statements against postgresql
>> (yes, I know, Oracle brainwashed us with prepared statements always on,
>> but for GIS PostgreSQL makes
>> smarter choices when they are off, although the most recent version of
>> postgresql became smarter and
>> learned to re-plan a prepared statement based on the current bound values
>> so... not sure how well that
>> works, it may be that with the latest version of postgresql the setting
>> became irrelevant performance wise).
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I'm still interested in the question of using simplify for geometry
>>> transformations is SLD. It seems like all the pieces are there to make it
>>> happen. Would give map authors ultimate flexibility for cases like this.
>>>
>>
>> In SLD it's likely useless or detrimental, GeoServer already does
>> geometry decimation before rendering (unless the
>> store does it on its behalf, that is).
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The on the fly simp is great. How is the scale factor determined? Would
>>> it make sense to have that be configurable?
>>>
>>
>> It's computed to be 0.8 on screen pixels (transformed back to real
>> coordinates of course). If a database
>> It is not configurable, if you want to play with it try changing
>> RenderedImageMapOutputFormat in GeoServer
>> and call setGeneralizationDistance on the StreamingRenderer instance.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>>
>>
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>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Andrea Aime
>>
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