So who did write it? I'm still trying to come up with a reason to let my
database users log into geoserver.

Ian

On Wed, 3 Mar 2021, 17:39 Andrea Aime, <andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it> wrote:

> Quoting from stack overflow: "After much head scratching and asking the
> guys who wrote this stuff on the users mailing list"
>
> Hell no, I had nothing to do with those modules! :-D
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 6:35 PM Ian Turton <ijtur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to everyone for their help on this I have finally got my head
>> around it and have added an answer to the gis.stackoverflow question I
>> linked to earlier (https://gis.stackexchange.com/a/388940/79) - If I get
>> some time over the weekend I'll see if I can try to make the documentation
>> clearer.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 15:03, Andrea Aime <andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ian,
>>> the role handling is a third class:
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> 1: authentication via database users (tries to connect to the database
>>> using the username/password provided in the request)
>>> 2: authentication via table contents (looks up a user with the same name
>>> provided in the request, and verifies the password)
>>> 3: adds role to a given user, after it has been authenticated
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Andrea
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 3:50 PM Ian Turton <ijtur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 13:33, Andrea Aime <andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>> there are both functionalities, they are separate classes and are
>>>>> configured in a different way:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Authenticating using the database own users:
>>>>>    
>>>>> https://docs.geoserver.geo-solutions.it/edu/en/security/jdbc_authentication.html
>>>>>    - Storing credentials in the database, use the table contents for
>>>>>    authentication:
>>>>>    
>>>>> https://docs.geoserver.geo-solutions.it/edu/en/security/jdbcusergroup_services.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I think (and I may be wrong) that this one only assigns a role to a
>>>> postgres user (that is why you can set the password field to empty) -  if
>>>> it was intended to work that way I can try to find some time to debug it
>>>> (when I finish this course).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Back when we wrote the training material they were both working, not
>>>>> sure about the present.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure it used to work (when I wrote my training notes too)
>>>> but it's been a while since I had a trainee choose the JDBC path instead of
>>>> the LDAP path through the course (we have a lot of windows users) so I
>>>> can't recall for sure (and if I used ian as my test user then it would have
>>>> worked as I have a DB login).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just a note, one has to be very careful when using the auth subsystem,
>>>>> many options, lots of complexity. I know I curse every time :-D
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, yes that is for sure!
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Andrea
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 12:42 PM Ian Turton <ijtur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to check before I break out the debugger:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you use JDBC Authentication can it allow any user you create in
>>>>>> GeoServer (which get written in  then tables) login in or does it only
>>>>>> allow the user used for the postgis connection (or other postgis users) 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> log in?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems like this is a bug, but I may just be missing something (and
>>>>>> I think I'm not the only one
>>>>>> https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/274834/geoserver-jdbc-user-group-services-problem
>>>>>> )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be interested if any one is successfully using JDBC
>>>>>> authentication in the wild?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>
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