Or if the March/September cadence is useful to ensure availability, we 
could wait until March (that is have a long 2.9.x cycle).

Or we could choose an October release for 2.10.0, that is one month 
late. We are trying to make up two months, so we could take one from 
2.9.x stable and one from 2.10.x stable. That does seem too short to me. 
2.9.2 would be the last stable 2.9.x before it goes into maintenance.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 16/06/16 08:20, Jody Garnett wrote:
> I was just updating the schedule, based on what I remembered of the
> discussion. This is why it is in the meeting notes so we can sort this out.
>
> So if we go the other way are we looking at a November release?
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:16 PM Simone Giannecchini <
> simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> one thing strikes me here:
>> "We are looking at a short release cycle due to release delays of 2.9."
>>
>> Looking as in "yeah, that would be a bad idea"? :)
>>
>> What is the rationale behind making the life of 2.9 shorter? Its birth
>> was difficult hence I would expect extra care before moving to 2.10.
>> The clients I talk to do not usually rush towards new releases so
>> making a release shorter does not help with building more confidence,
>> I am afraid.
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <b...@transient.nz>
>> wrote:
>>> GeoTools / GeoServer Meeting 2016-06-14
>>> =======================================
>>>
>>> Attending
>>> ---------
>>>
>>> Ben Caradoc-Davies
>>> Jody Garnett
>>> Torben Barsballe
>>>
>>> Apologies
>>> ---------
>>>
>>> Ian Turton
>>>
>>> Agenda
>>> ------
>>>
>>> - GeoServer OSGeo Project Officer
>>> - Release schedule
>>> - OSGeo update
>>> - Upgrade to NetCDF-Java 4.6.6
>>> - ImageMosaic refactoring part 1
>>> - Pull requests
>>>
>>> Actions
>>> -------
>>>
>>> - Jody: encourage updates to docs/jira to record Simone as GeoServer
>>> project officer
>>> - Alessandro and Andrea: release 14.4 / 2.8.4
>>>
>>> Actions from last meeting
>>> -------------------------
>>>
>>> - Ben to email list to ask for more PMC votes on OSGeo copyright header
>>> legal advice [DONE]
>>> - Jody: Contact Justin to declare GeoTools copyright header policy
>>> change done, merge in change to developers guide [DONE]
>>>
>>> GeoServer OSGeo Project Officer
>>> -------------------------------
>>>
>>> Simone Giannecchini has volunteered:
>>> - OSGeo board updated
>>> - website:
>>> http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/board_and_officers.html (done)
>>> - wiki: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Contacts (done)
>>> - jira: https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/projects/GEOS (not yet)
>>>
>>> Release schedule
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> Updated the release schedule:
>>> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Release-Schedule
>>>
>>> We are looking at a short release cycle due to release delays of 2.9.
>>>
>>> - Alessandro and Andrea have (been) volunteered to release 14.4 / 2.8.4
>>>
>>> Release priorities/ideas/mad plans for GeoServer 2.10 release timeframe:
>>> - Jody and Devon are taking a run at GeoTools codebase prior to foss4g
>>> workshop in August. Intend to update library for Java 8 syntax.
>>> - Status endpoint is collecting more and more sanity checks (expect GUI
>>> during 2.10.x timeframe?)
>> https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-4585
>>> https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-7567
>>> - ImageMosaic api refactor ongoing
>>> - VectorTiles documentation
>>>
>>> OSGeo update
>>> ------------
>>>
>>> Board has been informed of new GeoServer project officer.
>>>
>>> Board approved asking for legal advice on GeoTools header policy.
>>> Ben/Jody are working with Michael Smith on this one....
>>>
>>> OSGeo Marketing committee has asked how they can help:
>>> - GeoTools: Encourage committers, always encourage committers
>>> - GeoServer: Encourage participation, testing, updated handouts?
>>>
>>> General discussion on where we get new developers? From
>>> companies/organizations, submitting a few pull requests, ...
>>>
>>> How can we be more sticky as a community? Our "community" modules is one
>>> attempt on this front, not so useful now with github.
>>>
>>> Our pull reviews can be ... harsh "no discussion, no jira, no party"
>>> (but more directed at longstanding developers cutting corners). We do a
>>> better job meeting new developers half way, but time is limited. Can be
>>> intimidating to find a good test case example to copy from; perhaps we
>>> can make a short list.
>>>
>>> Predictable release tick/tock between stable/maintenance helps attract
>>> contributions (if not volunteers). As does our open process.
>>>
>>> Larger proposals get stuck in review, try many small proposals.
>>>
>>> Upgrade to NetCDF-Java 4.6.6
>>> ----------------------------
>>>
>>> Targeting 2.9.x backport for July 2.9.1 release.
>>>
>>> [GEOT-5434] Upgrade to NetCDF-Java 4.6.6
>>> https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOT-5434
>>>
>>> ImageMosaic refactoring part 1
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>> https://github.com/geotools/geotools/wiki/Refactor-ImageMosaic-Index-and-Catalog-management-for-improved-extensibility
>>>
>>> Should add Ben's summary to the docs: proposal provides why, pull
>>> request provides what.
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>> - This is a smaller proposal easier to follow
>>> - The last section has gone beyond strict API interface change and has a
>>> fair bit of discussion (is this needed?)
>>> - Needs links to Jira and mailing list discussions
>>>
>>> Pull requests Roundup
>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>> - Many pull requests were reviewed, and some merged
>>>
>>>
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