Hi Ben and Rob,

Thanks for the feedback.

Regards,

On 02/27/2017 11:40 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> Also note that gml:id is only mandatory in GML 3.2.1; it was optional 
> in GML 3.1.1. gml:id has type xs:ID which forces uniqueness in a 
> single document. WFS suggests (implies? urges?) that gml:id should be 
> stable and unique for a service, but there is nothing in GML to 
> enforce this. There is nothing in GML to prevent each response from 
> using different gml:ids, as long as they are unique in each response 
> document. The problem is that there is AFAIK no support for 
> gml:identifier in WFS. It is nice to have an indentifier that is 
> globally unique; there is no guarantee that gml:id is.
>
> Kind regards,
> Ben.
>
> On 28/02/17 10:23, Rob Atkinson wrote:
>> Gml:identifier was introduced for stable id. Gml:id is really meant for
>> reference with the response document but WFS blurred the line with its
>> getbyid.
>>
>> So it comes down to implementation contracts between service and 
>> clients...
>> force ids to be stable, mirror in gml:identifier and allow wfs call on
>> ids.. or... specify how stable ids are somehow... or just ignore getbyid
>> method.
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2017, 8:08 AM Nuno Oliveira 
>> <nuno.olive...@geo-solutions.it>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was investigating a WFS cascading issue when I stepped on this two
>>> pieces of code (this code is the same in the old WFS store and the new
>>> one):
>>>
>>> https://github.com/geotools/geotools/blob/master/modules/unsupported/wfs-ng/src/main/java/org/geotools/data/wfs/internal/parsers/XmlSimpleFeatureParser.java#L180-L180
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/geotools/geotools/blob/master/modules/unsupported/wfs-ng/src/main/java/org/geotools/data/wfs/internal/parsers/XmlSimpleFeatureParser.java#L881-L895
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> So if GT is not capable to extract a feature id (FID) from a feature,
>>> the current feature and all next features are ignored. I checked WFS
>>> specification and related schemas, GML schemas and searched on GS\GT
>>> mailing list and I'm not sure I understood correctly all the behavior
>>> around features FIDs.
>>>
>>> My impression is that a feature should always be uniquely identifiable
>>> by an ID but at the same time nothing in GML seems to enforce that.
>>> GeoTools on is side seems to also assume that a feature can be always
>>> uniquely identified by an id (I may be wrong).
>>>
>>> Can someone shine a light on this ?
>>>
>>> Regarding the WFS cascading behavior, does it make sense to allow the
>>> user to select an attribute that can be used as FID ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Nuno Oliveira
>>>
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