geo friends,
Forwarding (as an attachment, which hopefully will get through mailman;
if not, see [1] and nearby) a thread I just started on several W3C
lists, trying to collect up some deployment experience for the W3C SWIG
basic geo namespace, as input to the new incubator group starting up at W3C.
Since we never previously had a mailing list at W3C on these topics,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is probably the best way to ping most of the
folks who have used and evangelised the http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/
work, in case you're not actively tracking the main swig list, [2]. The
attached mail sketches some questions we might ask w.r.t. deployment
details, and appeals to the geo-expertise of the XG for thoughts on
other questions we might ask when looking at deployment stats. I'll
repeat that appeal here, ...but nudge folks towards the public-xg-geo
list for followups...
cheers,
Dan
[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-geo/
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/
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(sorry for the noise; re-sending due to typo in To: line! sorry...)
Dan Brickley wrote:
Hi folks
meta-matters:
I'm sending this to the public W3C Geo XG list, bcc:'d to the Member
list (a pattern that puts this on the Google'able public record and
makes it share-able with SWIG, without exposing the Member list address
to spammers etc).
I encourage followups from XG members to use the same pattern. Hmm, I've
also added the SWIG list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the cc: list. SWIG
members with an interest in the namespace described in
http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/ might want to sign up to the Geo XG's
public list, see http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/geo/charter and
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/geo/ ->
lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-geo/
(basically, just send mail with 'subscribe' in Subject: line, to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], as with all W3C public lists).
/meta-matters
So ... I just dropped a note into the UMBC blog in response to a post
from Tim Finin, cc:'d. Copying it below too, since it's in the blog
moderation queue. Basic idea is that it would be great to know a lot
more about how the SWIG basic geo namespace has actually been used in
publically available data.
For those who missed the announcement, there is now an incubator group
at W3C who are working to come up with improvements to the basic geo
vocab's design, based in particular on experience with the GeoRSS
effort. I'm very pleased to see this happen, as it brings together
several communities with complementary interest and expertise. It also
gives us a practical testbed to explore some issues around the upgrade
and evolution of deployed namespaces. A process not dissimilar to
rebuilding a ship while sailing it :)
XG members and other RDF geo implementors --- see below for a sketch of
the questions we might want answered w.r.t. the basic geo namespace. I'm
sure there must be others, especially drawing on georss experience.
Perhaps this thread could live in public-xg-geo, and then I'll summarise
into the ESW wiki somewhere if there's much to summarise...
Thanks for any thoughts!
cheers,
Dan
From comment on
http://ebiquity.umbc.edu/blogger/2006/07/17/semantic-web-terms-defined-and-used/
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1. Dan Brickley Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
July 18th, 2006 at 3:40 am
Interesting! Do you do requests? W3C has just chartered a Geo XG
who want to update the ad-hoc ‘basic geo’ namespace created by SW
Interest Group members. I’d be very interested to know more about how
the namespace described in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/ has been used
in practice (perhaps after consulting the new XG to find out what
questions to ask!).
In particular, we might want to know things like: which namespaces
it often co-occurs with. What other properties its classes are used as
domain or range of. Whether people use appropriate values (dots vs
commas, negative values, etc), whether literals are all plain or if folk
have used datatypes.
Also given the nature of the data, I’d guess that there would be
significant interest in getting data dumps that could be plotted on maps
and so-on. But mainly I’m most interested simply in how the namespace
has been used. Hmm can you plot adoption/usage over time, too?
Sorry if the request seems cheeky, but you can’t blame me for
asking ;)
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