Sean,
Good comments. Here are some responses.
On Oct 13, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Sean Gillies wrote:
Josh,
I'm sorry I wasn't able to attend the talk. I would have asked
something like this:
"Is GeoDRM just a terrible choice of name for an otherwise well-
intentioned effort, or does it signal a bias towards the vendor end
of the rights spectrum?"
Only the latter if you think that only vendors have rights. The
working group was initiated by a variety of groups vendors
And if you answered wrong, I'd pull the bag of rotting fruit out of
my backpack. Seriously, could you have come up with a more scary name?
It is unfortunate that certain vendors of schemes for enforcing
digital rights have (mis) appropriated the name "drm" and it happens
to be the original name of the working group at OGC. Some have
started to use the term "RM" instead. I kind of favor "RMF" for
"rights management framework". Whether it's a framework, a protocol,
or a layer, the idea is to develop common ways of defining and
communicating the exchange of intellectual rights in distributed
geocomputing.
I also think that Creative Commons may object to being a part of
any DRM concept. See 5.12 and 5.13 at
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/
FAQ#Is_Creative_Commons_involved_in_digital_rights_management_.
28DRM.29.3F
CC and *DRM don't mix.
This isn't quite accurate, I believe. The CC literature makes the
point that enforcement mechanisms which are consistent with a stated
rights grant are not a problem. Any incompatibility is with
mechanisms which infringe on or restrict those rights which have been
granted or implied in the course of protecting rights which have not
been granted. Unfortunately many rights enforcement schemes have this
flaw.
Disclaimer: I'm just trying my best to see DRM of all kinds dead
and buried with a stake through the heart. Or at least driven into
the dark voids.
Does that make you a stake holder? I don't think I like the dark
voids part. Rights protection, like security, doesn't really improve
with obscurity.
Cheers,
Sean
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tyler,
Cristian Opincaru and I gave a presentation on this at FOSS4G'2006
( http://www.foss4g2006.org/contributionDisplay.py?
contribId=196&sessionId=52&confId=1 ) which may provide some basic
information on this. The OWS-4 activities do also involve 52N
components.
We were not pelted with rotten tomatoes during the presentation,
but since it was given the morning after the evening reception and
few were in any condition to get worked up about it.
Josh L
On Oct 13, 2006, at 10:38 AM, Tyler Mitchell wrote:
On 13-Oct-06, at 7:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My disclaimer: I am working with OS and with OGC on what is
called "GeoDRM" but which is actually a wide concept of rights
management in the use and distribution of geodata, including
such things as Creative Commons and GPL.
Hi Josh, you brought up some good points in that note. I was
wondering about GeoDRM specifically. I see that the 52North
group is focused specifically on this - are you connected with
them at all. Can you help demystify the whole GeoDRM concept.
It implies, to me, in my ignorance the same kind control by
vendors and removal of distribution rights from users. How is
GeoDRM different from the DRM we hear about in the music
industry, etc?
Curious,
Tyler
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