* @ 17/10/06 06:13:28 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Correct.  Do you buy music wrapped in DRM?  I don't.
> 
> Not a valid response to the question. In the music world, you have an
> option of buying non-DRMed music. The data you seem to be most
> interested in is not available without DRM. If it were to become
> available under a permissive license with built in limitations on the
> use of the data to match that license, would that be better than not
> having the data at all?   

But as described, those limitations will be broken.

If GeoDRM is a political act to make non-technical people more
comfortable with releasing data, then that's one thing, that appears to
be what you're defending, Chris. But it appears to be presented (here)
as a serious effort. Perhaps the non-technical people are on this list
and the flag needs to be waved.

> You misinterpreted who 'they' was in this case. 'They' could be any
> person that has data and wishes to make it available under some specific
> license. FooCorp, a company which maps the locations of every FooBucks
> location in the world, may want to release that information to the
> public with a no-redistribution clause. They are not a government

Then they don't need DRM.

> agency.  'They' could be the Open Guides project, which wishes to ensure
> protection of its data from incorporation into commercial data sources.

I'd hope that OG arn't dumb enough to use DRM.

> "They" could be Open Street Map, which wishes to ensure that the terms
> of the Creative Commons license under which their data is released is
> adequately described in a standardized framework. All of these might be
> covered by the discussions ongoing in the OGC GeoDRM working group. 

No, I think OpenStreetMap would rely on civil law. It's worked for me in
the past and I have more faith in that. I also don't want to buy in to
something that may restrict moral or fair use rights. I have no idea how
DRM would ensure attribution or derivative works clauses.

> > And we release our data in the public domain or using Creative Commons 
> > licenses.  
> 
> You speak as if this is a universal truth. It's not. Many individuals
> and organizations hold massive amounts of geographic data for fear that
> releasing it would lead to its misuse. Not all of these concerns can be
> solved by DRM. Some of them can.

Which ones?

have fun,

SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.asklater.com/steve/
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