I bet it doesn't have gps yet; articles always say that these things have
gps when in fact they really mean proprietary network assisted positioning.

The price is too high, and it is possibly too feature rich... for the kind
of use that I'd hope to see anyway; I want to build social place apps that
lots of people use...  and this is like haute couture or jewelry more so
than something that everybody would have.

Looking at how Steve Jobs presented it, it seems like a risk for them; I
guess they are mitigating risk by envisioning a series of fallback
use-cases; if not a phone then a portable photo album; if not a photo album
then a way to check email; if not email then a window scraper... whereas it
feels like there's still a need for the sms equivalent of place
awareness...  like not starbuck's but place classifieds...

Still; it is nice to see Apple school the other mobile smart device vendors
out there. Compared to the zaurus, ipaq, axim, blackjack, oqo, the psp,
various generic windows smartphones, nokia n800 etc; this does seem more
satisfying...  maybe it is just the pretty ui.

- a

On 1/10/07, Joe Germuska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 1/10/07, Kris Kolodziej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The iPhone is using Cingular's network, which is a U-TDOA
> location-enabled
> network that might be used to locate the iPhone. But is there a build-in
> location app on the iPhone already?


There seems to be.

This Information Week article quotes Woz as saying that the lack of
built-in GPS is one of his regrets about the iPhone: 
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/01/counting_down_t.html


On the other hand, this Forbes article says that it is GPS:
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/01/09/ap3314961.html

This article also describes the stunt Steve pulled to find a Starbucks
near Moscone and order 4000 lattes.

But I imagine that it's easy for the media to be sloppy about the
technical details and say GPS whether or not that's how it happens.  I just
figured GPS was (relatively) expensive for a device that is selling for
$500.  (perhaps subsidized by a Cingular kickback, but...)

I mean, we've all known that our phones know where we are -- I'm just
assuming that Apple decided to expose that information to applications --
that's the kind of thing Steve Jobs would just insist on.

People are harping on the price, but I don't understand that.  In the US,
there are not comparable devices for comparable prices (assuming I know
anything about comparing to a product which hasn't been released.)  Nokia's
internet tablet is about $350 and is Wi-Fi only.  This new Treo 750 is
$400.  Maybe other markets have better gear, but in the US, this is
definitely something new.

--
Joe Germuska
[EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://blog.germuska.com

"The truth is that we learned from João forever to be out of tune."
-- Caetano Veloso

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