Stephen,

I believe there are members of this list that would respectfully
disagree with your point of view, and I would include myself in this
group.

Conferences, meetings and similar events provide the opportunity to
share ideas and concepts among individuals with common interests and
expertise. Many people wouldn't make time in their busy schedule to
"stay at home and think", but will make the time to attend a conference.

I am reminded of the group of scientists that were working on the first
atomic bomb. I believe their major breakthrough came when discussing the
project at an informal gathering around a few drinks, not while working
hard at their desks.

I think it is also important to think about the future and what it will
bring. Technology moves very fast, and there is nothing wrong with
thinking about what these changes will bring, or what they will mean for
a particular group.

I commend any effort to build a common platform for technology or open
technology standards.

Landon (A.K.A. - The Sunburned Surveyor)

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Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Geowanking] 3d geoweb - Digital Earth - reference model

On 05/05/2007, at 2:28 AM, Mike Liebhold wrote:
> I've been thinking a lot about 3D GIS lately, about  
> interoperability of
> 3D objects in real world - virtual worlds like Google earth,

I'm sorry, but I'm starting to think that this geowanker's mailing  
list is missing the point. You're _thinking_ about something, so you  
announce a conference? Have I subscribed to a conference organiser's  
list or something unrelated to geoinformatics? Maybe I'm the one who  
is out of place and needs to unsubscribe?

> Will we have multiple 3D geowebs?  beyond harmonized 2D geodata and
> geocoded hypermedia, will 3D data  and media producers and service

I don't know! Invent something and make it so! The best way to  
predict the future is to invent it, so why don't we get on with  
inventing stuff and making stuff, so we can talk about stuff that  
exists? I see no purpose or point in talking about what might be,  
when the effort should concentrate on making what things should be!

> I'll be leading sessions at Where2.0
> (http://conferences.oreillynet.com/where2007/) and  ISDE5

How does that help? None of the technologies you listed were by  
people who had a complete list of technologies and talked about it at  
conferences. They were invented by people who were busy inventing  
things that were interesting and could be used for things.

I want to work with people who are inventing things, I want to talk  
about things that have been invented, and I want to work with  
expanded scope of things that have been done. I don't want to talk  
about vague things like the upcoming Singularity in all of its myriad  
possible forms (which are narrowed down to the one single way that it  
actually happens because of things that are invented!).

Why do the people in here have so MANY conferences? NOTHING HAPPENS  
AT CONFERENCES! Mouths move, air gets expelled, noise flaps the air,  
and bright buttons get pinned on chests. If it were possible to be  
constructive at conferences, then Einstein would have been running  
around in a bunny suit while working on general relativity. Newton  
would have been throwing apples at people's heads.

Instead, they stayed at home and THOUGHT... they used their minds in  
conditions of peace and quiet so that all their focus could be  
devoted to extracting difficult answers out of difficult questions.  
Isn't that what we need now? Aren't the set of problems that we're  
facing in geoinformatics and location based media really really  
difficult, needing a great deal of introspective rumination to solve?

So I think I'm on the wrong list. I'm not interested in conferences  
and I want to get on with the actual work. Maybe there are  
conferences about the results, but I'm also not interested in that.

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