Sean is right, This is a wankers list ( with a very large number of real
geotech practitioners and inventers)
But Stephen is probably right too in a way, about my including a list
of technologies. I should have limited my note strictly to the issues
re: 3D geo.. my original intent, I just got carried away, resurrecting
other -THOUGHTs about meta architectures.
Allan Doyle just pointed out to me that the geo community has been
working on meta problems for decades with precious little to show for
it, and thatthe answer is "small pieces, loosely joined", and new geo
communities seems to be doing that with the exception of 3D gis beyond
geodetics and terrain models. x3d earth is the only group organizing,
around a ressurected geo-vrml - which may be a non-starter. and beyond
that - none of the other fora mentioned, collada, flightplan, etc. are
really the right fora
Loose coupling of lots of OS efforts is definitely the right idea. i
was just thinking we need to look a bit more at the coupling
Allan suggested that I make it very clear that you're not looking at
building an SDI. I'm not trying to build an SDI... j i have no cycles
nor desire to lead a parade, i'm more of a provocateur, a geowanker
just trying to provoke better community interconnections and consensus
visions on how to interoperate ( not necessarily an architecture)
This is an inflection point for 3D GIS... powerful forces (google,
ESRI, MS, et. al.) are staged, and the FOSS4G is not really active at
all seriously considering 3D GIS as a framework for 3d hypermedia,
mobile augmented reality, sensor webs, etc
(Einstein in a bunny suit... lol)
Mike
stephen white wrote:
On 05/05/2007, at 2:28 AM, Mike Liebhold wrote:
I've been thinking a lot about 3D GIS lately, about interoperability of
3D objects in real world - virtual worlds like Google earth,
I'm sorry, but I'm starting to think that this geowanker's mailing
list is missing the point. You're _thinking_ about something, so you
announce a conference? Have I subscribed to a conference organiser's
list or something unrelated to geoinformatics? Maybe I'm the one who
is out of place and needs to unsubscribe?
Will we have multiple 3D geowebs? beyond harmonized 2D geodata and
geocoded hypermedia, will 3D data and media producers and service
I don't know! Invent something and make it so! The best way to
predict the future is to invent it, so why don't we get on with
inventing stuff and making stuff, so we can talk about stuff that
exists? I see no purpose or point in talking about what might be,
when the effort should concentrate on making what things should be!
I'll be leading sessions at Where2.0
(http://conferences.oreillynet.com/where2007/) and ISDE5
How does that help? None of the technologies you listed were by
people who had a complete list of technologies and talked about it at
conferences. They were invented by people who were busy inventing
things that were interesting and could be used for things.
I want to work with people who are inventing things, I want to talk
about things that have been invented, and I want to work with
expanded scope of things that have been done. I don't want to talk
about vague things like the upcoming Singularity in all of its myriad
possible forms (which are narrowed down to the one single way that it
actually happens because of things that are invented!).
Why do the people in here have so MANY conferences? NOTHING HAPPENS
AT CONFERENCES! Mouths move, air gets expelled, noise flaps the air,
and bright buttons get pinned on chests. If it were possible to be
constructive at conferences, then Einstein would have been running
around in a bunny suit while working on general relativity. Newton
would have been throwing apples at people's heads.
Instead, they stayed at home and THOUGHT... they used their minds in
conditions of peace and quiet so that all their focus could be
devoted to extracting difficult answers out of difficult questions.
Isn't that what we need now? Aren't the set of problems that we're
facing in geoinformatics and location based media really really
difficult, needing a great deal of introspective rumination to solve?
So I think I'm on the wrong list. I'm not interested in conferences
and I want to get on with the actual work. Maybe there are
conferences about the results, but I'm also not interested in that.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
_______________________________________________
Geowanking mailing list
[email protected]
http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking
_______________________________________________
Geowanking mailing list
[email protected]
http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking
