Addendum to my earlier message...

The other good news is that I suspect the geowanking community could go a long way to working out the data catalog/search/access problems in a new, useful way.

There are some interesting things going on:

 1. Open Search geo extensions
http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/Extensions/ Geo/1.0/Draft_1

 2. OSGeo Geodata Committee
    http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Public_Geospatial_Data_Project

 3. OSGeo DCLite4G
    http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/DCLite4G

 4. Google's KML search
    http://www.directionsmag.com/article.php?article_id=2409

There's plenty of material about the existing geo-search activities out there. Google for "ogc catalog", "spatial data infrastructure", "fgdc metadata", etc.

The problem seems so easy. Identify a point in space. Decide what kind of data you want. Find the data. The axle people get wrapped around is that they then have to decide on a whole bunch of stuff that will support doing that and it's never clear how much yak- shaving is happening, how much institutional rivalry is happening, how much legacy inertia is happening, etc.

        ALlan


On Jun 13, 2007, at 10:21, David Fawcett wrote:

__ Brian,

I am interested in this topic as well. We have a system to make Minnesota air quality data available to the public. It consists of point sources, ambient data from monitoring stations, and Air Quality Index data for regional areas. I am always interested in looking at new ways to store, slice, represent, and publish this type of information.

David Fawcett

On 6/13/07, Allan Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Jun 13, 2007, at 09:24, brian grant wrote:

> pardon my impressions as I've lurked this site for years and read this
> thread with some amusement.
>
> the street view focus on the visual seems to be an effort to
> capture the
> transient but my needs are to capture repeatedly over time and not
> just the
> visual - I need temperature, humidity, particulate and other
> atmospheric
> data.
>
> I'm not necessarily looking for a way to commercialize or publish
> data - I'm
> here trying to find an appropriate geospatial reference that
> defines area
> not points - recursive areas of ever increasing resolution that fit
> nicely
> into a database schema or even file directory structure.

You are on to something. The environmental data you seek is being
gathered by a number of groups in a number of formats with a number
of different metadata schemas in a number of different repositories.
The "appropriate geospatial reference" you seek should be something
that you can then use to query for, find, and extract the data you
are looking for.

I think in the long run, it's easier to build OpenStreetView than to
build something that lets you do what you want.

The good news is that a lot of smart people have been working on your
problem. The bad news is that they have been working for a long time
and it's not clear that they have come up with a viable solution, nor
is a viable solution anywhere on the horizon.

        Allan

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