FWIW: there are two other groups working with related codes:

pyxis in australia has a scheme for spatial codes: see:
http://www.pyxisinnovation.com/pyxwiki/index.php?title=How_PYXIS_Works

And deCarta has a very compact internal scheme for describing the scale and location of tiles ( I haven't seen much discussion of this beyond the deCarta dev conference.) Maybe someone here knows more about this ...

-Mike

Rich Gibson wrote:

Hi Brian,

I have a couple of thoughts on what you are asking for.  The first is
that it seems that the sensor location is a point, not an area.   Why
do you want to throw away precision?

I do understand converting that point data to an area for
presentation, but even there I wonder what is wrong with defining your
areas as polygons?

http://www.nacgeo.com/nacsite/documents/nac.asp


I read your 'open to anyone for free' line, but after checking out
their site I need to say that  the so-called 'natural' area coding
system is an actively evil enterprise, and all of the people behind it
are scum.

It is deeply wrong to claim ownership over basically the idea of
transforming the numbers 0-9 into base 30...

Here is their 'secret sauce' subject to "The algorithm, the character
set and the concept of the Natural Area Coding System are copyrighted
content of NAC Geographic Products Inc. and protected by the
International Copyright Law. "

So just to be clear: They are assholes who should fuck off and die.



LONG = (Longitude + 180)/360
 x1 = Integer part of(   LONG*30)
 x2 = Integer part of((  LONG*30-x1)*30)
 x3 = Integer part of((( LONG*30-x1)*30-x2)*30)
 x4 = Integer part of((((LONG*30-x1)*30-x2)*30-x3)*30)
    ...

 LAT =  (Latitude + 90)/180
 y1 = Integer part of(   LAT*30 )
 y2 = Integer part of((  LAT*30-y1)*30)
 y3 = Integer part of((( LAT*30-y1)*30-y2)*30)
 y4 = Integer part of((((LAT*30-y1)*30-y2)*30-y3)*30)
    ...

 ALT = Arctan(Altitude/R)/90
 z1 = Integer part of(   ALT*30)
 z2 = Integer part of((  ALT*30-z1)*30)
 z3 = Integer part of((( ALT*30-z1)*30-z2)*30)
 z4 = Integer part of((((ALT*30-z1)*30-z2)*30-z3)*30)


On 6/14/07, brian grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I want to capture everything as well but store data such that sensor
location is defined by its area not an orthogonal point on a sphere -
and that is the problem looking for a solution - for sensors, photos and
lots of other attributes.

I'm happy to start with a lat/lon reading but I want to place it in a
globally defined area - a universal zip code not unlike the attempt here:

http://www.nacgeo.com/nacsite/documents/nac.asp

but open to anyone for free, of course.

what a Recursive Triangular Mesh (as opposed to the Hierarchical variety) offers is a method of defining a spherical area from any point of origin - this discussion has obviously focussed on geospatial but RTM can be applied
to any celestial or terrestrial object.


 - brian




> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of stephen white
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:16 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Geowanking] Open Street View
>
>
> On 13/06/2007, at 10:54 PM, brian grant wrote:
> > the street view focus on the visual seems to be an effort to
> > capture the
> > transient but my needs are to capture repeatedly over time and not
> > just the
> > visual - I need temperature, humidity, particulate and other
> > atmospheric
>
> When you have your measurements, where do you put them? Both groups
> of data are transient, and you may as well put your temperature and
> humidity and particulate data in the same place as something that
> lets you look around to see what's there.
>
> If you have a high particulate reading, wouldn't it be useful to pop
> into that point and look to see that there's a factory just up the
> road that is impacting on the sensor? If something's more humid than
> it should be, you can see there's a fire hydrant spraying water on
> your node!
>
> Why separate the two? Photos are sensor captures of light, right
> alongside sensor captures of any other type. Throw in radiation,
> throw in cosmic rays, throw in anything you like, and all of that
> information is forever changing and transient in nature.
>
> I want to capture EVERYTHING, and make it just as accessible as being
> there. If there was a tricorder that captured all the other data that
> you want, then all that data could be represented in Open Street
> View's databases, with an overlay saying "34 degrees" while you view!
>
> There is no conflict. It is the same problem.
>
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