Good point - I was remembering the non-edited version.  Forgot it was cleaned 
up for publication.  The last sentence gets closest:

"Dr. Harvey has created an Orwellian mythology based on faulty assertions and 
leaps of logic.  Hopefully the discipline of Geography can see beyond these 
dystopian views to leverage the opportunities these innovations (the GeoWeb) 
bring to the table, and educate the millions of new geographers hungry for 
knowledge."

A better example is in 2007 a journalist from Wired Magazine went to the AAG 
meeting in San Francisco and came across so many sessions like this:

http://communicate.aag.org/eseries/aag_org/program/AbstractDetail.cfm?AbstractID=11709

he ended up not writing about the conference at all.  The content of the 
conference sessions just was not relevant to the mainstream.  That is not to 
say critical post modern thought is not important, but in the academic 
discipline of Geography I'd say it dominates.  One of the reasons I left was 
I'd have to incorporate post modern work into my research to have a good shot 
at getting an academic job.

Too often post modern theory replaces good solid empirical research.  Too many 
grad students scared of statistics and mathematics turn to using big words 
instead of solid research to help inform and educate the public.  Far too often 
the research behind post modern work is a farce - in the case of Sokal's Hoax 
this is literal - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair

The point of the rebuttal in the EPB piece was that research to back up the 
post modern argument that virtual globes are creating corporate control of 
scientific data was based on lousy empirical research.  While it sounds like 
dry aspects of corporate ownership that is a bit of the point.  Good research 
can be dry when dissecting the details.  If you skip to the end with big words 
calling Google "Big Brother" you are not doing a service to anyone.

I think I've gone way off topic so I'll drop it there.

best,

sean

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Larcombe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On 1 Jul 2008, at 16:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> It also a bit scary to see the postmodern arguments against  
> geographic analysis crop up.  They also have an important role to  
> play in the critique of research, but I'd also argue they have  
> crippled the discipline of geography.  The focus has become what is  
> wrong with maps and analysis and not what problems it can solve  
> (full rant here - http://www.envplan.com/abstract.cgi?id=b3406b).

Where's the rant against post-modernist arguments in that article?  
All I saw in the article and that it was responding to was issues  
surrounding quite dry legal aspects of corporate data ownership.

Cheers,

A

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