Brian

I'd approach this from the bottom up.

You asked about gps accuracy and - I don't think your garmin would cut
it.  Personally I would use the most accurate gps you can get which is
rtk gps using a post processed base station (the data is processed
using your data plus data collected at fixed reference stations
throughout the local region).  I'd also survey your fixed sensors
using a local projection for greatest field accuracy, converting them
to lat/long or fuller later.

Please keep the comments coming because I'm fascinated as to why you
are using this particular method of storing data.



On 7/5/08, Brian Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Michael - I'm not sure I'm distinguishing theory from practice (or
> what's practical) - maybe this thought exercise is between the two
> overlapping spheres.
>
> What's pragmatic covers a lot of stuff; my use here is utilitarian and
> not necessarily deciding about what's "real" or "true"  - I just need a
> tool for structuring data
> and points and polygons are not practical for me.
>
> I need a simple framework to associate geo-spatial location with
> measured attributes. Right now that framework is just a theory with a
> pragmatic need to test it among many minds who think in geo-spatial terms
>
> and aren't afraid to write them down and share it with each other.
>
>
>   - Brian
>
>
> michael gould wrote:
>> Brian: I wonder what is pragmatic (or do you mean practical?) about the
>> below exercise. Pragmatics is another thing...proposed by a practicing
>> geodesist (CS Peirce) by the way...aimed at truth testing.
>>
>> And then I agree with Paul (see message 2 below), that categorization is,
>> uh, rather important to knowledge. I recommend George Lakoff's "Women,
>> fire
>> and dangerous things" on the subject (if bored, skip to chapter 16). By
>> the
>> ways categories do not need to be fixed, but can also be graded. The Pope
>> may not be a bachelor if a fixed definition is used, however his
>> bachelorness can be quite high all the same :-)
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:17:23 -0400
>> From: Brian Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [Geowanking] pragmatic exercise
>> To: [email protected]
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>
>> as a pragmatic exercise allow me to start with a map and end with a
>> database
>> schema.
>>
>> begin with a Fuller projection
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuller_projection) an icosahedral framework
>> of
>> 20 triangular areas (actually tetrahedra to the center - but we'll leave
>> that out for now). Each triangular area is designated a Major Triad.
>>
>> Each Major Triad is subdivided ** by the same base as the original sphere
>> **
>> into 400 Minor Triads (20^2). If the edge of a Major Triad is 8,000 km the
>> edges of the Minor Triads are 400 km. Major Triads are designated with
>> characters A through T; Minor Triads are designated AA through TT.
>>
>> Minor Triads are further subdivided into Trixels (or whatever) again by
>> the
>> same base creating a recursive triangular mesh capable of defining unique
>> triangular regions 2.5 m on edge with 13 characters.
>>
>> Forgive me as it may be apparent by now  that I'm not a geographer. I'm an
>> application engineer that builds wireless sensor networks and needs a
>> place
>> to store  data based on sensor location - sometimes static - sometimes
>> mobile. I've got networks in the US, Pacific islands, India and Europe.
>> This
>> Recursive Triangular Mesh is what I'm using to do it.
>>
>> The database schema is nothing more than a wiki with a directory structure
>> that looks like "D/FH/KP/ET/SA/RO" - addressing a unique area of less than
>> 3
>> square meters directly converted from a Lat/Long point.
>>
>> My other concern is the precision and accuracy of the location measuring
>> instrument - how many digits does my GPS provide? It defines the size of
>> the
>> final Trixel.
>>
>>   - Brian
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:30:48 -0700
>> From: "Paul Ramsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [Geowanking] polarized light etc
>> To: [email protected]
>> Message-ID:
>>      <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>
>> Ah, you just want to discard all of Western thought back to Aristotle.
>> And here I thought you were a wanker. (categorization)
>>
>> P
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:07 AM, stephen white <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On 04/07/2008, at 5:24 PM, Will King wrote:
>>>> So give us a sample problem, no waffle, Stephen and the pragmatists
>>>> on geowanking will probably come up with a pretty good solution.
>>>
>>> How can we organise all forms of captured information without
>>> categorising? Voxels? Turing? Red dots? Layers?
>>>
>>> That problem has the pre-requisite that you agree that categorisation
>>> damages information.
>>>
>>> --
>>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> [..cut]
>> ______________________________________________
>> Michael Gould
>> Dept. Information Systems (LSI)
>> Universitat Jaume I, 12071 Castellón, Spain.
>> email: gould (at) lsi.uji.es
>> www.geoinfo.uji.es
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