Just for the record I was not advocating a change in the gw name; was just commenting on goodchild's attempt to find a serious name (VGI) for certain research activity.
In my opinion gw is just a fun name, and is appropriate to this informal forum. ______________________________________________ Michael Gould Dept. Information Systems (LSI) Universitat Jaume I, 12071 Castellón, Spain. email: gould (at) lsi.uji.es www.geoinfo.uji.es ************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:01:18 +0100 From: "Andrew Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Geowanking] Beyond wanking To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Dan Brickley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder whether it is time to take a fresh look at the name of this > very forum. > > If we want the boring/serious/grownup GIS world to take more notice of > the kinds of things that are discussed around here, having a mailing > list with a different name would help. > No, the name of this forum is inline with its goals. To be an open, and semi-tongue-in-cheek venue for people to be free and air crazy ideas. Geowanking is not meant to be for serious discussions or to get published as a forum in the NYT. There are other, better forums for that - and more importantly are focused on more specific topics. I feel that serious, cross-pollinating discussions should happen there. It is up to any of us to participate in those communities, and if members of those groups want to "play in the dirt" then they can join Geowankers. I say this having done just that - I am now on a number of Geography lists, OGC meetings, and other "professional" and serious venues and attempt to keep the appropriate voice and injection of new concepts there as much as we can be open with our thoughts here. Cheers, Andrew ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:07:55 -0600 From: "Eric Wolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Geowanking] Beyond wanking To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We need a geowanking just as much as we need a big, international FOSS4G conference. Different ends of the spectrum... And my boss lurks on the list... -Eric On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Andrew Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Dan Brickley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wonder whether it is time to take a fresh look at the name of this > > very forum. > > > > If we want the boring/serious/grownup GIS world to take more notice > > of the kinds of things that are discussed around here, having a > > mailing list with a different name would help. > > > > No, the name of this forum is inline with its goals. To be an open, > and semi-tongue-in-cheek venue for people to be free and air crazy > ideas. Geowanking is not meant to be for serious discussions or to get > published as a forum in the NYT. > > There are other, better forums for that - and more importantly are > focused on more specific topics. I feel that serious, > cross-pollinating discussions should happen there. It is up to any of > us to participate in those communities, and if members of those groups > want to "play in the dirt" then they can join Geowankers. > > I say this having done just that - I am now on a number of Geography > lists, OGC meetings, and other "professional" and serious venues and > attempt to keep the appropriate voice and injection of new concepts > there as much as we can be open with our thoughts here. > > Cheers, > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > Geowanking mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking > -- -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=- Eric B. Wolf 720-209-6818 USGS Geographer Center of Excellence in GIScience PhD Student CU-Boulder - Geography -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.burri.to/pipermail/geowanking/attachments/20081010/86bac5dd/att achment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:15:00 -0500 From: "P Kishor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Geowanking] Beyond wanking To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We need geowanking. If we need to suit it up and make it VC friendly, we can call it GeoWanking, Inc., or GeoWanking, Ph.D. to make the academia happy. For those with class-aspirations, how about GeoWanking, Esq. Maybe iGeowanking for those of us who admire the bondi-blue iMacs. Otherwise, let geowanking be. And, it is ok if there are a few who don't understand what wanking means. For those who do, it serves as a source of a quite chuckle. And those who get their knickers in a knot over VGI can piss off as well. It is as good a term as geowanking is in all its expression and shortcomings alike. On 10/10/08, Dan Brickley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > michael gould wrote: > > > On the VGI term that most everyone here seems to hate (not-invented-here?): > > > > (Professor) Goodchild tried to coin a term sufficiently serious and > credible > for the academic world (where geowanking becomes something > like "popular > prototyping of innovative geographic applications"!), > while conveying the > basic notions behind neogeography and other > similar "memes". He did not > intend for the term to overly focus on > the data, just as I suppose > "neogeography" was not intended to > overly focus on things that (only) > geographers do. > > > > Applying to both comments: we don't all need to become one > homogeneous mass > and think and talk alike... ?viva la diversidad! > > Quite. > > Dear Geo Wankers, > > I wonder whether it is time to take a fresh look at the name of this > very forum. > > To many English speakers, the word "wanking" is a reference to > masturbation. Try explaining to your boss (some people still have > bosses...) that you're spending your time with "geo"wankers that you > met on the Internet. And if your boss isn't a native English speaker, > try finding a dictionary that will help them understand what "wanking" is. > > If we want the boring/serious/grownup GIS world to take more notice > of the kinds of things that are discussed around here, having a > mailing list with a different name would help. > > I understand that to some US-American ears, "wanking" has a less > graphic, and less sexual reading. But still ... looking around in > dictionary etc sites, the meaning is still pretty strong (see below). > > May I suggest that a move away from (geo)wanking might help this > community erm... better cross-fertilise with others? > > cheers, > > Dan > > ps. this could be done by a bit of mail aliasing/sysadmin I hope, > rather than mass resubscription to a new list > > > http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wank > [[ > wank (wngk) Chiefly British Vulgar Slang tr. & intr.v. wanked, > wank?ing, wanks To masturbate. Often used with off. > n. > 1. An act of masturbation. > 2. A detestable person. > ]] > > [[ > Noun 1. wank - slang for masturbation > hand job, jacking off, jerking off > masturbation, onanism - manual stimulation of the genital organs (of > yourself or another) for sexual pleasure jargon, lingo, patois, > argot, vernacular, slang, cant - a characteristic language of a > particular group (as among thieves); "they don't speak our lingo" > Verb 1. wank - get sexual gratification through self-stimulation > jack off, jerk off, she-bop, masturbate, fuck off masturbate - > stimulate sexually; "The old man wanted to be masturbated by the > prostitute" > scarf - masturbate while strangling oneself excite, stir, stimulate > - stir feelings in; "stimulate my appetite"; "excite the audience"; > "stir emotions" > Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. (c) 2003-2008 > Princeton University, Farlex Inc. > ]] > > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wank%20(w%27ank%3B%20n% > 2C%20adj.) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wank > > > > _______________________________________________ > Geowanking mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking > -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.eidesis.org/ Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/ Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) http://www.osgeo.org/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:19:55 +0800 From: Tim Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Geowanking] Beyond wanking To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 10:15 -0500, P Kishor wrote: > We need geowanking. If we need to suit it up and make it VC friendly, > we can call it GeoWanking, Inc., or GeoWanking, Ph.D. to make the > academia happy. For those with class-aspirations, how about > GeoWanking, Esq. > > Maybe iGeowanking for those of us who admire the bondi-blue iMacs. > Otherwise, let geowanking be. > > And, it is ok if there are a few who don't understand what wanking > means. For those who do, it serves as a source of a quite chuckle. > > And those who get their knickers in a knot over VGI can piss off as > well. It is as good a term as geowanking is in all its expression and > shortcomings alike. > Well said! Happy iGeowanking, Esq! Tim Bowden > > On 10/10/08, Dan Brickley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > michael gould wrote: > > > > > On the VGI term that most everyone here seems to hate (not-invented-here?): > > > > > > (Professor) Goodchild tried to coin a term sufficiently serious and credible > > > for the academic world (where geowanking becomes something like "popular > > > prototyping of innovative geographic applications"!), while conveying the > > > basic notions behind neogeography and other similar "memes". He did not > > > intend for the term to overly focus on the data, just as I suppose > > > "neogeography" was not intended to overly focus on things that (only) > > > geographers do. > > > > > > Applying to both comments: we don't all need to become one homogeneous mass > > > and think and talk alike... ?viva la diversidad! > > > > Quite. > > > > Dear Geo Wankers, > > > > I wonder whether it is time to take a fresh look at the name of this > > very forum. > > > > To many English speakers, the word "wanking" is a reference to > > masturbation. Try explaining to your boss (some people still have > > bosses...) that you're spending your time with "geo"wankers that you met > > on the Internet. And if your boss isn't a native English speaker, try > > finding a dictionary that will help them understand what "wanking" is. > > > > If we want the boring/serious/grownup GIS world to take more notice of > > the kinds of things that are discussed around here, having a mailing > > list with a different name would help. > > > > I understand that to some US-American ears, "wanking" has a less > > graphic, and less sexual reading. But still ... looking around in > > dictionary etc sites, the meaning is still pretty strong (see below). > > > > May I suggest that a move away from (geo)wanking might help this > > community erm... better cross-fertilise with others? > > > > cheers, > > > > Dan > > > > ps. this could be done by a bit of mail aliasing/sysadmin I hope, rather > > than mass resubscription to a new list > > > > > > http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wank > > [[ > > wank (wngk) Chiefly British Vulgar Slang > > tr. & intr.v. wanked, wank?ing, wanks > > To masturbate. Often used with off. > > n. > > 1. An act of masturbation. > > 2. A detestable person. > > ]] > > > > [[ > > Noun 1. wank - slang for masturbation > > hand job, jacking off, jerking off > > masturbation, onanism - manual stimulation of the genital organs (of > > yourself or another) for sexual pleasure > > jargon, lingo, patois, argot, vernacular, slang, cant - a characteristic > > language of a particular group (as among thieves); "they don't speak our > > lingo" > > Verb 1. wank - get sexual gratification through self-stimulation > > jack off, jerk off, she-bop, masturbate, fuck off > > masturbate - stimulate sexually; "The old man wanted to be masturbated > > by the prostitute" > > scarf - masturbate while strangling oneself > > excite, stir, stimulate - stir feelings in; "stimulate my appetite"; > > "excite the audience"; "stir emotions" > > Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. (c) 2003-2008 Princeton > > University, Farlex Inc. > > ]] > > > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wank%20(w%27ank%3B%20n%2C%20a dj.) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wank > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Geowanking mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking > > > > _______________________________________________ Geowanking mailing list [email protected] http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking
