Radoslav, 
 
Thanks for sharing your first-hand, in-depth insights - I wish I could have 
been at the conference (having been involved in the Montreal Protocol as a UNEP 
staff member in late 1990s).  I think it would be interesting to share your 
insights with a long-time EPA staffer, Steve Anderson, and get his feedback, as 
a participant in US ozone policies since 1980s.  It would be particularly 
interesting to hear his thoughts on whether the HCFC agreement undermines the 
Kyoto process...
 
Allison Chatrchyan


----- Original Message ----
From: Radoslav Dimitrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Global Environmental Education <>
Cc: Samuel Barkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wil Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:34:19 PM
Subject: Re: HCFCs and Kyoto


Dear colleagues,

I just came back from Montreal where they negotiated the new HCFC  
agreement. Heady week! Having witnessed what happened there and how  
exactly it happened, I hope some observations would be useful to you.  
Below is also a commentary I drafted for an Earth Negotiations  
Bulletin analysis. Two key questions: what made the agreement  
possible? What are its implications, including for the climate process?

The negotiations went much faster than most people expected. Everyone  
was taken aback how quickly things were happening. Some delegates did  
not even expect full negotiations on HCFCs (the agenda was heavy with  
other items). All of a sudden, the Chinese (biggest producer) went  
along. The Russians (also opponents) disappeared from the room  
altogether. A key driving force was the linkage with climate that the  
US, EU and others kept stressing. Rumour had it that the US  
delegation had marching orders to get an HCFC agreement before the  
climate meetings this week. Bush has invited key countries to  
Washington this week to discuss climate change. With the new HCFC  
agreement within the ozone process, he is able to say: “Look, we are  
taking serious action on climate OUTSIDE the Kyoto process, and this  
action will achieve far more than all combined efforts under Kyoto.”  
Technically, this is correct. If implemented, the agreement will  
result in up to 25-30 billion tons of CO2 equivalent, that is,  
several times more than under Kyoto (assuming full implementation).

Same for China. One informed insider told me that the Chinese made a  
U-turn after the head of UNEP, Achim Steinar, contacted the Chinese  
at a "high level" and explained to them at length the climate  
benefits of dropping HCFCs. Now the Chinese, too, are in a stronger  
position to oppose binding obligations under Kyoto. Some people I  
talked to in Montreal openly said that the amendment is embarrassing  
for the Kyoto process and undermines it.

Here is a fuller commentary I drafted for the ENB. It includes more  
information about country positions, motivations behind positions,  
and also ecological and political implications of the new agreement.  
If you have more information, questions, comments, would love to hear  
them.

ANALYSIS

The nineteenth meeting of the parties to the Montreal Protocol opened  
to much fanfare. The meeting marked the twentieth anniversary of the  
Montreal Protocol, a treaty that pundits regard as a spectacular  
success in global environmental politics. In the keynote address,  
former Canadian Prime Minster of Canada Brian Mulroney portrayed the  
Montreal Protocol as “the single most successful international  
agreement to date.” This sentiment appears to be widely in the policy  
world, as various speakers from government delegations, international  
organizations and environmental NGOs showered the process with  
superlatives throughout the six-day meeting in Montreal. Newspapers  
around the world ran articles that lavished the event with attention.

EXCEEDING EXPECTATIONS

The ozone process could easily have afforded to lie on its laurels  
and bask in the approbation of the world. Instead, delegates moved  
swiftly to forge out yet another key agreement, on accelerating the  
HCFCs phase-out. Thus, instead of merely receiving the accolades, the  
process produced a new substantive proof that it deserves them well.  
The remainder of this analysis reflects on the dynamics and  
achievements of the meeting, the considerable strengths of the ozone  
process and the challenges that lie ahead.

The celebration provided the context of the meeting and infused it  
with an upbeat and festive atmosphere. The well-organized and  
productive meeting in Montreal demonstrated that the process is a  
smooth and effective mechanism for decisionmaking. Delegates  
maintained a positive and cordial tone during the negotiations,  
displayed a constructive spirit of cooperation, and made mutual  
compromises. None of the tectonic rifts and acrimonious debates that  
characterize some other international policy processes were evident  
here.

ANOTHER NEW HORIZON: HCFCs
Switching gears to move faster on eliminating these substances has  
widely been regarded as the next logical step in the evolution of the  
ozone regime.
What took everyone by surprise is how quickly events unfolded. Many  
said that the issue came to the fore very quickly, perhaps too  
quickly. Even veteran observers of the process said they had not  
expected a decision before MOP21, and were astonished at the rapid  
pace of progress in the discussions. When the idea of accelerated  
phaseout was first raised six years ago, it had met strong opposition  
by key players, and until earlier this year no one had expected a  
decision was possible at this stage. Some delegations even admitted  
that they were not fully prepared to engage in in-depth negotiations  
at this meeting, and may have some explaining to do back home.

Various conducive factors converged to facilitate rapid progress.  
China, the biggest country producer of HCFCs and main opponent of  
accelerating the phase-out showed far more flexibility than anyone  
expected. Another important player, while not supporting  
acceleration, decided not to oppose it actively either and discretely  
withdrew from the discussion in the middle of the week. Rumour had it  
that their president’s signature on a recent G-8 declaration had tied  
the delegation’s hands on the issue.

Among the remaining players, various country interests converged to  
work favourably in the same direction. Industrialized countries  
stressed the high global warming potential of HCFCs and the climate  
benefits of their elimination. Developing countries saw new stronger  
commitments as a mechanism for increasing financial resources  
available through the multilateral fund. They insisted on a “total  
package” involving agreements on HCFCs, increased Fund contributions  
and access to alternatives. They stuck to their guns on linking these  
issues, and succeeded in securing a commitment to stable and  
sufficient funding. For everyone involved, accelerating the phase-out  
was also necessary for maintaining stable levels of funding in the  
multilateral fund. Insiders openly discussed the financial reasons to  
seek acceleration: with 95 percent of other ODSs successfully  
eliminated, the Fund had been drying up, and new policy commitments  
were seen as a way to ensure continued funding. More fundamentally,  
the successful implementation of the treaty had created a paradoxical  
problem: with most of the goals achieved, the process faced the  
prospect of having nothing left to do, and in need of a reason to  
live. These diverse factors thrust a powerful tail wind in the sails  
that propelled the negotiations forward.


TILLING NEW FIELDS: CLIMATE CHANGE

Many delegates in Montreal promoted the climate benefits of reaching  
an agreement on HCFCs. According to some, Montreal Protocol  
commitments for an accelerated phase out of HCFCs, will actually  
serve to benefit climate change, more than for ozone depletion. Some  
statistics indicate HCFCs could result in 18 billion to 30 billion  
CO2 equivalent for phase-outs, much more than the Kyoto Protocol in  
its first commitment period. One major country displayed particular  
enthusiasm about taking climate-related action outside of the climate  
process. Reportedly, their delegation had “marching orders” to bring  
climate into the ozone process before an upcoming high-level meeting  
on climate change next week, and thus draw attention away from the  
UNFCCC. Many delegates and observers wondered if by committing  
themselves to HCFC accelerated phase-out have parties reincarnated  
the regime into one focused on climate. While everyone celebrated the  
success on HCFCs, some questioned if this is a reincarnation, then  
what about the illegally traded ODS and the continued use of methyl  
bromide. They asked has the Montreal Protocol given up on getting its  
own house in order. Others postulated that it served one particular  
parties interest, who is not party to Kyoto and who has been  
historically under fire for its continued use of methyl bromide, to  
push for an agreement on HCFCs, to promote the climate benefits and  
to undermine Kyoto.

TAKING STOCK: SUCCESSES AND FUTURE CHALLENGES
The outcome was what delegates referred to as a “historic agreement”  
to accelerate the HCFC phaseout. This agreement opens a new chapter  
in the life of the Montreal Protocol. The new policy commitments  
strengthen the fight to protect the ozone layer, give the Montreal  
Protocol process a new raison d’etre, and ensure “the sustainability  
of funding” by providing new justification for fund replenishment.  
Politically, the new agreement may take attention away from the  
ongoing issues of methyl bromide use and illegal trade problems, and  
reduce the pressure on key offenders in those regards. It also  
provides an easy way to take action on climate change and shift the  
focus away from the Kyoto Protocol.
The new HCFC agreement is yet another gem in a crown that is already  
resplendent. Clearly, the Montreal Protocol process has much to  
boast. It enjoys broad active participation, with most of the  
countries in the world being parties to the treaty. The Protocol and  
its amendments are ambitious policy instruments and stipulate  
stringent regulations of many substances. The implementation of these  
policies has been strong, and as many pointed out, ninety-five  
percent of ODSs have been eliminated. The new agreement helps the  
process remain on the pedestal of global environmental politics.

             Still, problems remain and further challenges lie ahead.  
Illegal trade of ODSs remains the weak spot of ozone policy, and  
curbing the black markets will continue to be a struggle. One NGO  
speaker publicly accused his government for supplying the black  
markets. Methyl bromide also remains a contentious issue. In  
Montreal, much energy was spent debating how to measure stocks. A  
regional group kept challenging partners to match its own  
achievements in phasing out MB, and succeeded in gaining additional  
ground. The fact that a heavy-handed player yielded to the pressure  
and accepted to reduce its methyl bromide quantities for critical use  
exemptions could be taken as an indication that a complete phaseout  
is a matter of time.
The eventual phaseout of HCFCs may have unexpected and undesirable  
consequences, given that the negative impacts of HCFC alternatives  
are of concern. Environmental NGOs stressed that one alternative in  
particular, HFCs, have a global warming potential far greater than  
HCFCs and reliance on them may create more problems than it solves.  
Developing countries appeared to be most concerned with possible  
negative impacts of alternatives and persistently called for studies  
on the matter. After all, HCFCs that are now headed to the guillotine  
were introduced as a solution to the CFCs problem. The logical  
question is whether the next solution will also become the next  
problem? Accelerating the phaseout at MOP19 is undoubtedly a notable  
achievement. Yet, the choice of particular substitutes and policy  
instruments used to implement it will be of equal importance.

The ultimate weakness of the process is that, despite all political  
successes in international cooperation, the ecological problem of  
ozone depletion has not been solved. As the scientific presentations  
during the meeting revealed, current stratospheric ozone levels  
remain low, the Antarctic hole is at its worst, and skin cancer cases  
are expected to multiply several times in the next decade. The  
international policy process established to restore the ecological  
balance remains accountable for the end results and those are  
ultimately measured in ecosystem and public health.



On 24-Sep-07, at 11:10 AM, Wil Burns wrote:

> You're quite right, Sam. However, what the faster phaseout does do is,
> potentially, buy us some time in terms of when atmospheric  
> concentration of
> greenhouse gases would reach the point where forcings would push us  
> past the
> 2C threshold that everyone acknowledges as particularly foreboding,  
> and at
> which point some of the non-linear forcings may occur. Such is our  
> lot in
> life where that's the extent of the good news, but perhaps in the  
> interim
> technological change, peak oil and political impetus can transform  
> climate
> policy before the worse potential impacts of climate change are  
> visited on
> us, and perhaps more importantly, the world's most vulnerable  
> populations.
> wil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel  
> Barkin
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:30 AM
> To: gep-ed@listserve1.allegheny.edu
> Subject: HCFCs and Kyoto
>
> A thought on the new Montreal Protocol/HCFC agreement and climate
> change, following up on the several emails on GEPED on the topic
> yesterday. Various commentators have argued that this agreement does
> anywhere from twice to five times as much for climate change as does
> Kyoto. And this may well be the case for some periods of time in  
> between
> the new baseline year and the old phase-out date of 2040. But in the
> long term, it strikes me that the new HCFC agreement does not do all
> that much for climate change. The parties to the agreement had all
> already agreed to a phaseout - this agreement moves the dates  
> forward by
> a decade. But a decade in climatological terms isn't all that much.
> After 2040, this agreement makes no difference at all to climate  
> change.
> Kyoto, on the other hand, was about setting new emissions levels, not
> changing the schedule for emissions levels already agreed to. As such,
> its achievements (however modest) could be expected to alter long-term
> behavior by setting new baselines for expectations. As such, it  
> strikes
> me that comparisons of the climate-change effects of the two  
> agreements
> are misplaced, in that the HCFC agreement does not have new long-term
> ameliorative effects on climate change. Thoughts?
>
> Sam Barkin
>
> Samuel Barkin
> Associate Professor of Political Science
> University of Florida
>


       
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