From: "Julian and Jackie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Deb Rebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
> >This may all be in good fun, but isn't this the sort of thing that's
> >killing this list? Along with a wideband on 'what do you like most
> >about the GML list' just clogs more email boxes.
> >
> >Perhaps we need to split the list; form another one for Gerbil
> >SOCIAL Mailing List; where one can post things like updates;
> >I just got a new gerbil and I need help naming it; and 'come
> >see my new website and all my pictures' stuff?
> >
>
> I have been trying to resist posting this myself for some time.
*** Please clarify, Julian. Which of Deb's points were you going to post
about?
I'll assume it is about waste of bandwidth and email clutter. You both
are right. Paige and I were doing something silly -- how can you
pronounce "GGMLEs".
That topic is purely social. It came up, as have others IMHO, to relieve
GML tensions after a stormy period a few nights ago.
When Paige posted (with my encouragement) there was no other place to do
it. Since then, SocialGML has been opened to handle our silliness.
Paige -- How about posting your pronunciation message in SocialGML to
start discussion there for pure fun? (BTW -- Paige posted after some
email exchange among her, Ann-Marie and me. Some of it was very funny but
we did NOT do it in GML.)
Moral: There is no way to encourage social interaction in GML and also to
curb it. I used to write humor (??) for GML because it was what I could
do in exchange for all the help you gave me. Then I noticed that I was
helping to clog GML and experts already were over-burdened. So I stopped
doing my nonsense, partly also so as not to encourage others. More
entertaining writers than I now can post to SocialGML without guilt.
>
> My concern is that whatever we do there will always be a mix of posts on
> any list. Questions on a social list will have to answered by someone,
> and unless the busy veterans also read that list the questions will be
> answered by other people. I already see this when I dip in to some of
> the other gerbil lists that exist.
***** Agreed that there is a potential problem. In an earlier reply I
suggested that SocialGML questions that are about truly abnormal
situations should be moved to GML so they get expert attention. Hopefully
enough experts will read SocialGML so that important questions will be
spotted and flagged for moving. I don't know the mechanics for that, but
assume we can find a way.
Deb Rebel already is working on Charter/Guidelines for SocialGML. One
rule should be: NO cross-posting between GML and SocialGML. We do need
to find a way to move discussions between the two. Any ideas, Julian?
>
> Personally, I agree with what Kathryn Behm says. I think it is good that
> we have such a varied list. What would help would be for more people to
> make use of the resources on the web, and for questions to be better
> signposted as I suggested on Friday.
>
****** Absolutely agreed. But your suggestions are only about how to
deal with questions.
The current blend of information and social leaves two extreme kinds of
people feeling dissatisfied. I hope everyone subscribes to both GML and
SocialGML, and divides their time to suit their own desires.
Your suggestions would make GML a better place IMHO -- but they don't
solve what some see as social clutter, nor the clear desire for MORE
social.
Your suggestions do NOT get respected as much as I would like to see. And
since GML does not have a police force (thank goodness), let's deal with
realities in a different way.
... Bill
Save the GGMLEs!
