The primary issue I am concerned with is J2EE compliance. The Deploy component should be able to delegate certain methods to the Verifier component without a change in its own behavior. If we worry about the deployment manager later, it will be a lot more troublesome and cause some major confusion in terms of behaviour and responsibilty of the various methods. Do you guys think we can get by and address such issues later on? Secondly, there seems there will be an inherent overlapping of responsibilities within the components. I have run into such issues before and would like to avoid it altogether if possible. Sometimes you end up re-coding and re-designing the whole component. Also in the future someone else might be going through the code, it may make it more difficult to enhance, test or debug the components. If we strictly adhere to the spec, it will ensure better maintainability and longevity. This my opinion in regards to the two components.
--- Chris Opacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It doesn't matter that much to me. I think we can > get > by with them separately. What does everyone else > think? > > --- Jonathan Duty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you want the DDBeans to be part of this module? > > ~Jonathan > > > > Jonathan Duty > > Software Developer - eWashtenaw > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Opacki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:59 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE > > deployment verifier) > > > > I would like to start implementing the DDBeans > from > > JSR-88. I will start a new thread for JSR-88. > > > > > > > > --- Srihari S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > cool...so what are we waiting for!!!! > > > lets get started with the requirements/design of > > the > > > verifier.. > > > any ideas on the way of working for these > phases.. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jonathan Duty > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:14 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE > > > deployment verifier) > > > > > > > > > I agree. The verification engine really doesn't > > > need to implement the > > > deployment specs. Later when we implement the > > > DeploymentManager in > > > front of it that's when we will have to worry > > about > > > implementing the > > > exact interfaces. > > > > > > ~Jonathan > > > > > > > > > Jonathan Duty > > > Software Developer - eWashtenaw > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Weston M. Price > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:48 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE > > > deployment verifier) > > > > > > I agree with Srihari in that the Verification > > > manager does not have to > > > implement the spec interfaces, however, the > > > DeploymentManager does, this > > > > > > would be where we would implment DDRoot, > DDConfig > > > etc.....in some ways > > > the > > > DeploymentManager would just use the services of > > the > > > VerificatinoEngine > > > as > > > one step in the process of actual deployment. > > > > > > Is this in line with what you guys were > thinking? > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 13 August 2003 01:52 pm, Jonathan > > Duty > > > wrote: > > > > When we implement this module, we could > actually > > > implement it to > > > exactly > > > > follow the API specs (JSR 88). That means > > > implementing the > > > > DeploymentManager interface on top of it and > > such. > > > That way any > > > > application (ant, Eclipse, etc) that is > equipped > > > to deploy packages > > > > could interface with it. It would just fall > > short > > > of actually > > > > communicating with MBeans and deploying the > > > package. > > > > > > > > When this module is used internally (within > the > > > REAL deployment > > > manager) > > > > it could just bypass or override the > > > Verification's Deployment > > > manager. > > > > > > > > ~Jonathan > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Srihari S > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:43 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE > > > deployment verifier) > > > > > > > > Hi All > > > > When I was going thru the deployment api > spec > > I > > > thought it would be > > > > good > > > > to bring up some points: > > > > > > > > From a preliminary reading of the spec i saw > > there > > > are no apis > > > > explicitly > > > > designed to do the verification > > > > of a deployable unit. From this I infer that > the > > > verifier can be an > > > > internal > > > > module which could be used > > > > by the deploy tool. So we could go full steam > on > > > its design and > > > > implementation. In this regard I am trying to > > > > jot the list of checks that our verifier will > > have > > > to do (This is > > > > mentioned > > > > in the j2ee specs). > > > > So in a way it will be equivalent to arriving > at > > > requirement specs for > > > > the > > > > verifier. > > > > With the list of dos and donts that a verifier > > has > > > to achieve we could > > > > go > > > > abt with design.Also the design of > > > > ant hooks can be taken care.Can we?? > > > > > > > > Next is something abt the big picture. > Certainly > > > the verifer is a > > > small > > > > part > > > > of the deployment process. > > > > But to achieve compliance we will have to > > > implement the deployment > > > spec > > > > as a > > > > whole. Has anyone given > > > > thought to this issue? > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Hari > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Weston M. Price > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:33 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE > > > deployment verifier) > > > > > > > > > > > > No, I think splitting them up would be > good.... > > > > > > > > Weston > > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
