> From: Keith Visco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 8:44 PM > > Hi Jeremy, > > Jeremy Boynes wrote: > > > > I believe OpenJMS is compatible in binary form, but source > suffers from the > > Intalio indemnity problem. > > What is the "Intalio indemnity problem"? As far as I know, OpenJMS uses > the Exolab license, which is a BSD-like license. The only restriction on > re-distributing the source code is that you must leave the original > copyright notice in the source file, and a copy of the exolab must > accompany the source code. So basically, you can't just go and change > the copyright and call it your own. But you are allowed to > use/modify/redistribute, etc. There is no requirement of having to use > the Exolab license for your own code. > > So I'm not sure what the problem is with that, perhaps you can explain > further, or perhaps I have missed the point. Of course, I'm not a > lawyer, nor am I an expert in licensing issues. However, after working > with that license for the past 4 years, I am confused on what the > problem you are facing over the license is. >
I was not involved in them, but as I understand it there have been prior conversations between ASF and Intalio/Exolab regarding the use and redistribution of Exolab licensed software by the ASF. As a result of those conversations, it was believed that Intalio would require some form of 'click-through' agreement that indemnified them from harm, or something similarly legal. The ASF was not in a position to meet Intalio's requirements. As you, and others, have pointed out, none of this is indicated by the Exolab license, so I am not sure if this is a legal issue or ASF simply wishing to honour Intalio's intentions. A comment from someone involved in those original discussions would certainly help clarify this. Currently Geronimo is operating on the premise we cannot re-use Exolab licensed code, which means we are missing out on some of the best technology available. If we are working under a misconception and would be able to freely use, modify and redistribute code from projects like OpenJMS and OpenORB, we would like to know. -- Jeremy
