On 6 Nov 2003, at 16:12, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
From: Keith Visco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 8:44 PM
Hi Jeremy,
Jeremy Boynes wrote:suffers from the
I believe OpenJMS is compatible in binary form, but sourceIntalio indemnity problem.
What is the "Intalio indemnity problem"? As far as I know, OpenJMS uses
the Exolab license, which is a BSD-like license. The only restriction on
re-distributing the source code is that you must leave the original
copyright notice in the source file, and a copy of the exolab must
accompany the source code. So basically, you can't just go and change
the copyright and call it your own. But you are allowed to
use/modify/redistribute, etc. There is no requirement of having to use
the Exolab license for your own code.
So I'm not sure what the problem is with that, perhaps you can explain further, or perhaps I have missed the point. Of course, I'm not a lawyer, nor am I an expert in licensing issues. However, after working with that license for the past 4 years, I am confused on what the problem you are facing over the license is.
I was not involved in them, but as I understand it there have been prior
conversations between ASF and Intalio/Exolab regarding the use and
redistribution of Exolab licensed software by the ASF. As a result of those
conversations, it was believed that Intalio would require some form of
'click-through' agreement that indemnified them from harm, or something
similarly legal. The ASF was not in a position to meet Intalio's
requirements.
As you, and others, have pointed out, none of this is indicated by the
Exolab license, so I am not sure if this is a legal issue or ASF simply
wishing to honour Intalio's intentions. A comment from someone involved in
those original discussions would certainly help clarify this.
Currently Geronimo is operating on the premise we cannot re-use Exolab
licensed code, which means we are missing out on some of the best technology
available. If we are working under a misconception and would be able to
freely use, modify and redistribute code from projects like OpenJMS and
OpenORB, we would like to know.
We could use binaries AFAIK - I think the issue was about hosting exolab source code at Apache wasn't it? Provided we don't host any exolab licenced code at Apache we'd be fine (i.e. just use binaries).
James ------- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/
