While I don't disagree with much of your text, I believe you're wrong
about the BBC terms of reference. My understanding is that if you
access iPlayer from an Apple device, then that 30-day limit doesn't
apply. All get_iplayer does is emulate (or simulate) that Apple
environment, thereby avoiding the 30-day limitation.

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Regards,
   Paul Thornett

On Mon, 6 Jul. 2020, 11:09 VeniVidiVideo, <venividivide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Boy, the hypocrisy here is stunning.  The BBC allows time-limited downloads, 
> but does NOT allow downloads without an expiration date.  Every single 
> license payer here is violating BBC's terms of service by using GiP to 
> download files that do not expire.  Yet heaven forbid someone from outside 
> the UK violate those same terms of service.  Plus, every US participant that 
> has ever spoken up has observed they'd happily pay the license fee if they 
> could.  Hell, I tried to work out an arrangement to pretend to live in an 
> apartment on somebody's property so I could have an address and pay the 
> license fee, just to contribute my fair share, but the fellow decided not to 
> follow through.  I didn't blame him for wanting to avoid any impropriety, but 
> you holier-than-thou types really suck.  People in glass houses...
>
> - larryy
>
> > On Jul 5, 2020, at 8:31 AM, James Robinson 
> > <jamesrobinson2...@virginmedia.com> wrote:
> >
> > Could not agree more.  Well said.
> >
> >> On 04 July 2020 at 17:29 Jon Davies <j...@hedgerows.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 13:58, Barry Toner <ba...@tonermail.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> Can someone please tell me how I do this?  I promised some friends in the 
> >>> USA I would grab this show for them.  I need the video and don’t need 
> >>> subtitles or audio description.
> >>
> >> This is why I stopped subscribing to this list a couple of years ago -
> >> I've been resubscribed by the old backup, but will be going again.  I
> >> want nothing to do with anyone or anything that promotes violation of
> >> the BBC terms of use.  See
> >> https://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/terms-of-use/ - particularly 7a, the
> >> bit that says
> >>
> >> a. Don’t mess with our services
> >>
> >> What do we mean by that? This sort of thing:
> >> ...Accessing content from outside the UK that you aren’t allowed to,
> >> or helping others do the same.
> >>
> >> So, please just stop using get-iplayer for this sort of thing.  People
> >> have put effort into building get-iplayer to enable fair use within
> >> the UK in circumstances that the BBC's own software doesn't support.
> >>
> >> Yes, I'm angry.  I'm angry that people, including you Barry Toner, are
> >> abusing the work others (and to a much lesser extent I) have put into
> >> get-iplayer and the various distribution points for it.
> >>
> >> So I'm pulling the plug on what's left of the Ubuntu repository
> >> (though it was getting no further updates for other reasons), and
> >> pulling the plug on the Raspbian repository.  If you don't like this,
> >> tough.  Do your own thing.  I'm having no part in this any more.
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
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