I've started a wiki page at
https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/NewtypeOptimizationForGADTS

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Simon Peyton Jones
<simo...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> I'm not following the details of this discussion.  Would it be possible to 
> write a compact summary, with the key examples, in the appropriate ticket?
>
> I think that https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/10016 is one such 
> ticket, but I think there may be more than one issue at stake here.  For 
> example, #10016 can be done in a strongly typed way in Core; but #1965 cannot 
> (so far as I know).
>
> It could also help to have a wiki page to summarise the cluster of issues, 
> pointing to the appropriate tickets for individual cases.
>
> An articulate summary will make it much more likely that progress is made! 
> Thanks.
>
> Simon
>
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: ghc-devs [mailto:ghc-devs-boun...@haskell.org] On Behalf Of David 
> Feuer
> | Sent: 24 May 2016 23:14
> | To: Carter Schonwald <carter.schonw...@gmail.com>
> | Cc: ghc-devs <ghc-devs@haskell.org>
> | Subject: Re: Unpacking single-field, single-strict-constructor GADTs and
> | existentials
> |
> | Unboxing, per se, is not required; only newtype optimization. I
> | believe Ed would probably have mentioned something when I discussed
> | the issue with him if he'd already had an idea for hacking around it.
> | Instead, he said he wanted the feature too.
> |
> | On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Carter Schonwald
> | <carter.schonw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> | > Phrased differently: there's a subclass of existential data types which
> | have
> | > a well behaved unboxed memory layout?
> | >
> | > @ David : have you tried simulating this in userland using eds structs /
> | > structures lib?
> | >
> | > On Tuesday, May 24, 2016, David Feuer <david.fe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> | >>
> | >> I should mention that while this does not require UNPACKing sum types (or
> | >> any of the difficult trade-offs that involves), it lets programmers
> | >> accomplish such unpacking by hand under sufficiently general conditions 
> to
> | >> be quite useful in practice. As long as the set of types involved is
> | closed,
> | >> it'll do.
> | >>
> | >> David Feuer <david.fe...@gmail.com> writes:
> | >>
> | >> > Given
> | >> >
> | >> > data Big a = B1 !(Small1 a) | B2 !(Small2 a) | B3 !(Small3 a), where 
> the
> | >> > Small types are (possibly recursive) sums, it's generally possible to
> | >> > express that as something like
> | >> >
> | >> > data Selector = One | Two | Three
> | >> > data Big a = forall (x :: Selector) .
> | >> >    Big !(BigG x a)
> | >> > data BigG x a where
> | >> >   GB1a :: some -> fields -> BigG 'One a
> | >> >   GB1b :: fields -> BigG 'One a
> | >> >   GB2a :: whatever -> BigG 'Two a
> | >> >   GB3a :: yeah -> BigG 'Three a
> | >> >
> | >> > Making one big GADT from all the constructors of the "small" types, and
> | >> > then wrapping it up in an existential. That's what I meant about
> | >> > "unpacking". But for efficiency purposes, that wrapper needs the 
> newtype
> | >> > optimization.
> | >>
> | >> Yes, but you'd need to unbox a sum in this case, no? I think this is the
> | >> first issue that you need to solve before you can talk about dealing
> | >> with the polymorphism issue (although hopefully Ă–mer will make progress
> | >> on this for 8.2).
> | >>
> | >> Cheers,
> | >>
> | >> - Ben
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