After researching better and reading this manual: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ I saw that needs a knowledge that at the moment I'm not, and I could do more harm than help.
Thanks for the support. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Wesley J. Landaker <[email protected]>wrote: > On Friday, July 12, 2013 02:32:24 Christiano wrote: > > Hi, I have read this: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696548 > > > > I have applied to be the new maintainer. > > That's awesome that you're interested and motivated! GHDL definitely needs > some care. > > However, there are several reason why development has stalled, and there > are quite a few interested parties you'll certainly want to > collaborate with, so please make sure you know the whole story about the > current state of things between GHDL and Debian before diving in > head first. =) > > I'd suggest to please start with my message here (also attached) in which > I'd try to summarize the state of things from my perspective, and > the following thread which followed: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg01725.html > > Then at least following the links in that message to: > > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-electronics-devel/2013-May/003212.html > > and > > https://mail.gna.org/public/ghdl-discuss/2013-05/msg00002.html > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Wesley J. Landaker" <[email protected]> > To: GHDL discuss list <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > Cc: [email protected], Joris van Rantwijk <[email protected]>, > "أحمد المحمودي" <[email protected]>, Jon Taylor <[email protected]>, > Artur Rona <[email protected]>, Tristan Gingold <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 11:39:18 -0600 > Subject: GHDL and Debian > On Sunday, May 26, 2013 04:07:47 Brian Drummond wrote: > > On Sat, 2013-05-25 at 18:16 -0700, Jon Taylor wrote: > > > > > > I just installed Ubuntu latest on my new laptop, and when attempting > > > to get GHDL installed I found out about this: > > > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696548 > > > > > > > TL/DR : if you're not up to building gcc from source, sorry there will > > be a wait. > > > > I knew Wesley was looking into this but I didn't know he gave up from > > time pressures; he only reported this to Debian, not here. > > Well, I'm not *completely* dead yet. =) I haven't retired from Debian, nor > have I'm *totally* given up -- but, this isn't the first time I've > mentioned > some troubles (and had somewhat disheartening replies), e.g.: > > https://mail.gna.org/public/ghdl-discuss/2012-01/msg00007.html > > But yes, sadly, I'm very strapped for time in relation to what the GHDL > package in Debian requires. Due to the many problems with keeping GHDL up- > to-date and working with new compilers and on all currently-support Debian > architectures <https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=ghdl>, just > keeping GHDL *working* in Debian (not even counting upgrades or anything) > has become a lot more work than it used to be. Although I plan to continue > to contribute how I can, I really am hoping to find someone(s) to adopt the > GHDL Debian package. > > Now, the current Debian GHDL package in unstable does work fine currently, > due to some NMU package work done by Artur Rona. The package is removed > from > Debian's testing, which means GHDL will not go into stable Debian releases > currently, but it is usable on any Debian system by pointing to the > unstable > repository and installing from there. > > http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/ghdl.html > > Joris van Rantwijk also has made some upgraded deb packages outside of the > Debian infrastructure, which are available here: > > http://jorisvr.nl/ghdl_debian.html > > I really want GHDL to succeed and to work well in Debian, and I'll do what > I > can to help, but I'm not sure I have time to champion it any more; > certainly > I do not have time in the near future. A good path forward may be to put > together a team of interested folks to maintain a good Debian package going > forward, either based on my work in Git <git://git.debian.org/git/collab- > maint/ghdl.git> (which needs some changes to get up to date), or starting > from Joris' external package (which needs some changes to follow Debian's > package requirements), and/or by integrating Debianization more closely > into > upstream development (which BTW, could grealy benefit from moving to Git). > > Of course, I'd love to also see us in the Debian+GHDL niche collaborating > more efficiently and directly with the current upstream (which currently > appears to me to de facto be Brian Drummond, although the original author, > Tristan Gingold may still be working on it as well) as well as package > maintainers from Ubuntu and Fedora and getting more of the hacks that > distros are having to do into GHDL upstream, but it seems to me that is > going to require at least one someone with enough time and motivation to > coordinate things. > > Anyway, I'm cross-posting this to GHDL's ghdl-discuss and the Debian pkg- > electronics team mailing lists, and CCing those directly involved in those > two threads, or if I mentioned you by name in this e-mail. For those > interested in the state of GHDL and Debian, I'd suggest subscribing to both > of those mailing lists. > > Also, here are links to the two relevent threads I'm connecting with this > e- > mail, as I don't think all interested parties are all fully connected and > communicating yet. =) > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-electronics-devel/2013- > May/003212.html > > https://mail.gna.org/public/ghdl-discuss/2013-05/msg00002.html > > >
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