I am not much involved, but when I previously cloned GHDL, I cloned a
Mercurial repository.  I was very happy, because:

*git - sucks =  hg*

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Brian Drummond <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 08:15 +0200, Adrien Prost-Boucle wrote:
> > On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 07:19 +0200, Tristan Gingold wrote:
> > > On 21/07/15 05:18, Nils Pipenbrinck wrote:
> > > > On 07/21/2015 04:53 AM, Tristan Gingold wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am not very thrilled by moving from sf to github, because ghdl
> > > > > has
> > > > > already moved twice in the past.  Too many moves may lost users
> > > > > and
> > > > > contributors.
> > > >
> > > > The problem is that sf.net recently starts to wrap an installer
> > > > around
> > > > binaries that bundles open-source projects with crapware.
> > >
> > > Ok, I haven't realized that every project could be affected.
> >
> > As far as I know they only do that on projects/accounts they have taken
> > ownership of after long inactivity.
>
> OK, that gives us time to decide instead of making a knee-jerk reaction.
>
> I am no fan of crapware and if it starts to infect active projects I
> would be in favour of a transition at that time - IF - Tristan is also
> convinced and in full agreement.
>
> This current SourceForge outage is a separate issue, and while it's
> unfortunate, in my opinion it is distinctly out of character; I wouldn't
> rush to say it's a sign of things to come. If it spawns some more
> openness in SF and a re-engineering for better availability, things
> aren't all bad.
>
>
> http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-infrastructure-and-service-restoration/
>
> I'm not happy about it but clearly, neither are they. Github users can
> be as smug as they want until it happens to them.
>
> But, that said :
>
> > The ideal solution would be one that could be fully replicated/mirrored
> > regularly, like dayly, to an independant location that can be used as
> > fallback. I think it's important to have a reliable fallback location
>
> Is it worth formalising Adam's clone of the repo as a second-source?
>
> I see he can "git clone" successfully from the hg repository on SF (when
> it's up!) but does the reverse work safely and reliability - either "git
> update" or "hg update" from a Github repo to the hg one on SF?
>
> Or should we make a clean switch to Github?
>
> There is cost and opportunity loss to consider if we make a complete
> move from SF - for example I didn't realise that the pointers at
> https://www.openhub.net/p/ghdl
> still referred to Gna.org until late last year, and due to availability
> problems with openhub's system, even after I corrected that, it took a
> couple of months before the change propagated correctly.
>
> And still, elsewhere, you see people using 0.29 or earlier, who are
> pleasantly surprised to find there's a newer version.
>
> So awareness of ghdl-updates on SF is still not complete, and judging by
> the download statistics, still on the increase.
>
> That's not to say we shouldn't jump to github : just to say, let's talk
> it through - and as long as we stay at SF, let's keep an eye on the
> crapware situation.
>
> -- Brian
>
>
>
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